911 Conspiracy?

[Testosterone boy]

Here is a thought for ya'll.

Asbestos was the favored fire retardant when construction on the WTC began. Asbestos lawsuits became prevalent and usage of the material was curtailed at some point during construction.

It seems like asbestos covered the beams on the bottom half of the WTC towers but not where the jet impact/fires took place.

A possibility at least.

I am breathing easier since I am no longer convinced that the main towers were a controlled demolition.

I still think intel knew about it and decided it would be good for "business" though.

 

[Testosterone boy]

This did not pick up most of your post, the most important was the part about insider traders going short on United and American a few days before 9/11.

Is there a link that shows the CIA deputy director was one of the people going short?

I find this hard to believe, surely his ass would be fried.

Anyone have info about this allegation?

CIA deputy director going short on United or American or both....prior to 9/11?

We need to know!

 

[spongebob]

Here is a thought for ya'll.





I still think intel knew about it and decided it would be good for "business" though.

yea but there really hasnt been some kind of sound conspiracy put out by anyone. you know what i mean, somthing that just incriminates intel. i just cant believe that if the intel community or some in it would have known, that john p oniel would also have known. he probably wouldnt have took that job at TWC.

 

[Testosterone boy]

yea but there really hasnt been some kind of sound conspiracy put out by anyone. you know what i mean, somthing that just incriminates intel. i just cant believe that if the intel community or some in it would have known, that john p oniel would also have known. he probably wouldnt have took that job at TWC.

What about the allegation that the CIA deputy director went short on American or United? Or the Air Force being told to stand down on that day? Or the Bin Laden getting the red carpet with no qstionaing? Or Bush carrying on with his photo op like nothing extraordinary or unexpected had happened?

Thats just a start really.

 

[buddy28]

the intense and prolonged heat generated gradiated to the subbasement(where the melted steel was) instead of upward to the warmer environment.

Again, heat doesn't localize itself regardless of surrounding air temp which is what you're suggesting.

The outside environment would have been much colder relative to temperatures created by fires and molten steel in the subbasement. Not warmer. Fires create temps in excess of 300 400 Celius +. The outside air temp would have been around 30 Celcius max.

 

[Testosterone boy]

My biting questions and observations get ignored.

 

[spongebob]

Again, heat doesn't localize itself regardless of surrounding air temp which is what you're suggesting.

The outside environment would have been much colder relative to temperatures created by fires and molten steel in the subbasement. Not warmer. Fires create temps in excess of 300 400 Celius +. The outside air temp would have been around 30 Celcius max.

no what im suggesting is this, there was 1,000,000 tons of material stacked several stories high after the collapse. this material was on fire for a prolonged period of time. now speaking in layers, you have the above atmosphere, the 1,000,000 tons of material, the subbasement, and the subterranean layer beneath that.

im wondering(because its just a thought) if all the heat from the compacted material transfered downward instead of upward. the subterranean layer would be cooler than the atmosphere i believe. in essence, the intenstity and the length of time of the fire melted the steel in the subbasement. that is the steel in question isnt it? like i said, im probably way off.

 

[spongebob]

What about the allegation that the CIA deputy director went short on American or United? Or the Air Force being told to stand down on that day? Or the Bin Laden getting the red carpet with no qstionaing? Or Bush carrying on with his photo op like nothing extraordinary or unexpected had happened?

Thats just a start really.

i havent read anything on the CIA deputy director trading down. as far as the airforce, i thought we discussed that. and bush's photo op is getting beyond just intel.

in my post above, i meant a conspiracy theory exclusive to the intel community, havent seen one yet. although one probably could be put together.

 

[spongebob]

My biting questions and observations get ignored.

i told you in your karma basket i was checking with colleagues.

 

[spongebob]

What about the allegation that the CIA deputy director went short on American or United? Or the Air Force being told to stand down on that day? Or the Bin Laden getting the red carpet with no qstionaing? Or Bush carrying on with his photo op like nothing extraordinary or unexpected had happened?

Thats just a start really.

can you explain the deputy director thing. are you referring to james pavitt or a.b. krongard? im just now reading ,aterial on it and im not sure how someone is coming up with the CIA deputy director did some insider trading.