6 week test prop,tbol,proviron

[aced1]

hey folks. this will be my second cycle. first was test e and dbol. my stats are 23 y old, 82kg weight, 1,70 height, around 11-12% bf. my goal is to lean bulk and maybe drop 1-2% bf. was thinking of only tbol and proviron but why not add some test ??my diet will be carb cycling and my training will be 1 body part once a week(5 days train-2 days off). i need some advices on this. thats my plan so far :
1-6 test prop (dont know dosage need help)
1-6 tbol, 60mg ed
1-6 proviron, 75mg ed

OCT

n2guard,hcgenerate(last 2 weeks double dosed)

pct

8-11 unleashed/post
8-11 phytoserms 347
8-11 DAA
8-11 forma (was thinking for on cycle too but already got provi as ai..)

-will i need hcg??
-overall look??
-doses ???

thanks in advance everyone !

 

[Jbranken]

Proviron is not an ai. It has some ai properties but should not be relied on to cover your ass. Its a steroid. Thats why its not supposed to be used in pct either. Get some aromasin to be on the safe side. Tbol won't aromatize but the test will. Try the prop at 50mg Ed or 100 EOD. That's a good start for it. May want to consider low dose clomid for pct

 

[wootoom]

Branken hit the nail on the head...Prov is not an AI...

I like the Test,Prov and Tbol...

Personally, i would just run Test and Proviron for your second cycle...

PCT

I always use HCG bro, thats me...as well as HCGgenerate and Unleashed

 

[aced1]

thanks for the replies guys.yeah i thought provi wont do the job..what if i combine proviron + forma ? will they together be enough?? i was trying to avoid aromasin cuz im not in the states and its kinda hard to find it here( yes harder than it is to find the ACTUAL gear !). that goes for clomid too. i suppose i could add hcg. but how much and when ?? btw wootom hcgenerate and unleashed are already there

 

[Jbranken]

Hcgenerate will def help the boys on cycle but hcg will help your transition into pct. and yes Forma works wonders on cycle for ai support. But IMO, its always nice to have pharma ai's on hand incase things get real nasty. It's just a precautionary measure is all. If you aren't super gyno prone like i am, you shouldn't have any problem with the forma and prov controlling estro

 

[2tickets]

Hcgenerate will def help the boys on cycle but hcg will help your transition into pct. and yes Forma works wonders on cycle for ai support. But IMO, its always nice to have pharma ai's on hand incase things get real nasty. It's just a precautionary measure is all. If you aren't super gyno prone like i am, you shouldn't have any problem with the forma and prov controlling estro

Hi.

Sorry for hijacking this thread, just wanted to pick up on something. If you are super gyno prone do you or would you run an AI or SERM during your cycle even if you are only using non aromatising compounds?

Thanks

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[aced1]

my guess is you would be fine..what excactly are you running?
as for my cycle i decided to use hcg but any dosage suggestions for a cycle like this???
il try get aromasin also..

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

2 tickets, you would want to run an AI during cycle.... Bro, there are 1000 of online compounding pharmacies that have aromasin and clomid on stock... Its not that expensive either... Just make sure you research the company before hand....

Ace- i would def. recommend the dosages above for your prop... start low and raise if you have no problems... Do not count on Prov. to be an AI... Thats like saying im on Mast and i dont need t worry about an AI... Test does aromatise so i would suggest an AI while on cycle if your gyno prone!!!

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

HCG i would use at 500ius per week.... should be a good dose... But please make sure when using HCG that you monitor your blood pressure... It shot mine through the roof!!!

 

[aced1]

yup you're right il try get some aromasin no matter what then. il start prop at 100mg eod but how much should i raise it afterwards if everything is fine?? i think 500 ius per week is a nice spot for hcg also but what week should i start it and for how long??
cheers

edit: maybe i could pop some lipid stabil to make sure my blood pressure stays within normal levels while on hcg

 

[dylangemelli]

Hi.

Sorry for hijacking this thread, just wanted to pick up on something. If you are super gyno prone do you or would you run an AI or SERM during your cycle even if you are only using non aromatising compounds?

Thanks

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have some etiquette and start your own thread...

 

[dylangemelli]

1-8 test prop 100 mg eod
1-8 proviron 75 mg day
1-6 tbol 60 mg day ( you could run it 8 weeks and be okay) I think anavar would be better
1-8 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
5-6 hcg 500 ius week
7-8 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 9-12

Unleashed/post cycle combo IF OUT OF STOCK SUBSTITUTE WITH test INFUSION AND FORGED POST cycle AT MRSUPPS.COM
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM

optional

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com

ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

 

[Essie]

have some etiquette and start your own thread...

LOL!!!!! ^^^^^Dylan ... but why? It is SOOOOO much less trouble to just, even though the rules were read, just give them the and (jump over everyone else), cut the line and hi-jack someone else's thread ... I mean, it's only a quick question, right?

 

[2tickets]

Sorry all!!!!! Just wanted to pick up on something jbranken said and couldnt work out how to quote his post in a new thread

Thanks for putting up with the ignorant forum newbie........i consider myself reprimanded accordingly

Thanks again

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[Jbranken]

Hit "QUOTE" then copy paste what's in there and paste in new thread. Yes I always run an ai the whole way through but I keep the dose low at the start. I'd rather have my ass covered than start using It when symptoms have already arised. And OP, good luck with the cycle bro. You'll really enjoy it

 

[Essie]

Sorry all!!!!! Just wanted to pick up on something jbranken said and couldnt work out how to quote his post in a new thread

Thanks for putting up with the ignorant forum newbie........i consider myself reprimanded accordingly

Thanks again

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Well, then start a new thread asking how to start a new thread ...noob! LOL!!!! Just taking the piss a bit mate!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Actually, Proviron does suppress estrogen because it lowers SHBG, keeping estro from aromatizing.

 

[digit0x]

Branken hit the nail on the head...Prov is not an AI...

I like the Test,Prov and Tbol...

Personally, i would just run Test and Proviron for your second cycle...

PCT

I always use HCG bro, thats me...as well as HCGgenerate and Unleashed

I also recommend HCG. It works.

I like your setup and it will work well. You could extend to 8 weeks just the same. Proviron is not an AI. It will give you a drier look, and works well in combination with test but does not directly combat estrogen. Must have some sort of actual ai on hand just in case. Test by itself at a reasonable dose doesn't give me estro problems, but everyone is different.


Good luck

 

[aced1]

thanks all for the replies. yesi m gonna add hcg and i will try hard to get an ai to have on hand just in case.

1-8 test prop 100 mg eod
1-8 proviron 75 mg day
1-6 tbol 60 mg day ( you could run it 8 weeks and be okay) I think anavar would be better
1-8 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
5-6 hcg 500 ius week
7-8 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 9-12

Unleashed/post cycle combo IF OUT OF STOCK SUBSTITUTE WITH test INFUSION AND FORGED POST cycle AT MRSUPPS.COM
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM

optional

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com

ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

why only 3 weeks for pct dylan??? and is one week break enough from cycle to jump into pct???

 

[dylangemelli]

thanks all for the replies. yesi m gonna add hcg and i will try hard to get an ai to have on hand just in case.






why only 3 weeks for pct dylan??? and is one week break enough from cycle to jump into pct???

how are you figuring only 3 weeks for pct?

9, 10, 11, 12 is four weeks...

your running short esters... you start 2 days after your last injection...

come on bro... these are basic things here...

 

[aced1]

shit man im up all night for my work and i saw 9-12 and thought it was 3 weeks...lol feel so dumb sorry and thanks again mate

 

[dylangemelli]

shit man im up all night for my work and i saw 9-12 and thought it was 3 weeks...lol feel so dumb sorry and thanks again mate

No problem bro

 

[mrplunkey]

How much Armidex would you recommend on a 500 mg/week Test (blend) cycle?

Also, what is the minimum effective dose of Provion? Is 25 mg/day enough?

 

[ledhead]

Actually, Proviron does suppress estrogen because it lowers SHBG, keeping estro from aromatizing.

Exactly! Proviron binds strong to the aromatase enzyme, which means it combats estrogen. Absolute science debunks bro lore all day.

 

[notjake11]

My first thought rreading the initial post was that 6 weeks is too short. Dylans 8 week run would be pretty much perfect.

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[Jbranken]

Actually, Proviron does suppress estrogen because it lowers SHBG, keeping estro from aromatizing.

No argument there, but I think should still cover his bases and not rely solely on that while on cycle.

 

[digit0x]

Exactly! Proviron binds strong to the aromatase enzyme, which means it combats estrogen. Absolute science debunks bro lore all day.

As I understand it, the bond from mesterolone is temporary whereas Aromasin permanently disables the enzyme.

In any case, its better safe than sorry with the Aromasin.

 

[ledhead]

As I understand it, the bond from mesterolone is temporary whereas Aromasin permanently disables the enzyme.

In any case, its better safe than sorry with the Aromasin.

Why in the world would anyone want to permanently disable the enzyme??

In any case, it is NOT always safe to automatically insert Aromasin; it can be "very" counterproductive.

I will wait for your response before I give you an explanation about my assertions backed up by irrefutable facts...

 

[aced1]

bumping this...very interested on listening more for this !

 

[ceo]

As I understand it, the bond from mesterolone is temporary whereas Aromasin permanently disables the enzyme.

In any case, its better safe than sorry with the Aromasin.

permanently? So if I take Aromasin once, I shouldn't ever need to take it or anything else again?

Cool story bro.

 

[ledhead]

permanently? So if I take Aromasin once, I shouldn't ever need to take it or anything else again?

Cool story bro.

Lol. Yes, it is a cool story, and I'm still waiting for him to shock us with the exciting conclusion..