No, I must say guys, before I ever did the real juice, I did about a year on and off of the androstenedione, norandro, -9, -4, -15, and a bunch of other numbers that 'tards like me don't understand. All legal over-the-counter. I did not grow like I do on juice, but my body never saw riods except many years back with a little bit of oral Winstrol for boxing. Remember, the stuff does convert to the equivalent of synthetic roids in the body. The QUANTITY is the key. It is not nearly as much. I gained some true muscle and some strength. The stuff works to a degree. Was also doing the creatine.
This guy is young and just getting into the game in his first few years. I think it is great he is working his ass off in the gym and getting strength gains, and almost naturally. If you are growing and getting stronger, and are happy with your progress, keep it up. You have a lot of years ahead to think about sticking your butt with needles.
One thing to keep in mind, though - objectively speaking, regardless of what we consume, there are benefits in some areas and drawbacks in others. Pouring a ton of the over-the-counter stuff orally into your body is not necessarily "safe" just because it is legal. One must think of the wear and tear on the organs, especially liver, kidneys, and heart vs. the gains. If you could do a low-dose cycle of injectable Decadurabolin vs. bottle after bottle of the andro stuff, you may be hurting your organs less! I'm no expert, but I have been doing the supplement-training game for over 15 years (yes, 15) and just got into roids about two years ago. I sometimes wish I would have saved my $ from the piles of supplements and bought some juice a long time before. You are young, so keep up the good work, and keep it all in perspective. SLOW progress is the key to quality.
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