5x5 diet/cardio question

[sfreak49]

i'm gonna be cutting soon and was wondering when is it recommended to do cardio on a 5x5 plan? i can't do it first thing in the morning. it doesn't fit in to my schedule. should i do it after weights? on rest days? everyday except sundays? i don't want to overtrain. thanks for all the help. karma will be rewarded.

 

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I'm not aware of what a 5x5 plan entails.....???

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[MrMakaveli]

5 reps/5 sets..maybe?

 

[sfreak49]

i guess i should have been clearer. i meant i will be working out with needsize's 5x5 routine minus some isolation excercises and not so many arm movements on arm day. thanks for the help

 

[damnit458]

Im also doing that routine and cutting...and I try to do cardio sat/sun/tue/wen/thur with the workouts on mon/tue/thur/fri....Im not really sure when you should fit cardio in, and the main reason why I do it on those days is time, but I would also be curious to know if it makes a difference. Also, does anybody know how much cardio is suggested when cutting? Ive heard people say none and other say everyday, so im just curious what the majority of ya think

 

[B0ARDIN087]

for those who dont know what the routine is its a routine based on progressive overload and lots of compound movements. for each major body part you do a 5 sets of 5 reps at the same wieght, each week you go up in 5 lb increments, when you stall u step down 2 steps and when u get back u hopefully move on. for each body part after the 5x5 u do 2 sets of 10,8 of different excercises each week. 5x5 isn't usually to failure but the last 2 sets for the muscles are. my thoughts are that ur gonna be hard pressed to continue gaining enough to not plateau on the routine if ur cutting. maybe you will be able to if ur running gear.

 

[B0ARDIN087]

btw examples of the main excercises for 5x5s are deadlifts, squats, flat bench, shoulder press, curls, close grip bench, pull ups, etc......

 

[~SC~]

Sounds good boardin, thanks. I figured that was the gist of it, but I've seen a few 5x5 plans, and they all entailed different "little aspects". Thanks for the info.....

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[sfreak49]

would still like a good answer to my original question. bump

 

[EL GAUCHO]

If you're really looking to cut, cardio in the morning, before breakfast will do the trick.
If not just do it on your "off" days. This for me is on Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. If you try and do it after training you will be too tired.
Try interval training to get the most out of your cardio time.
Good luck.

 

[mrzap]

Personally I do not think 5x5 while cutting is the best idea. May be dangerous doing heavy compound lifts when you do not have as much energy in you and you won't get the full benefit of the 5x5.

 

[chewyxrage]

well if your doing the 5x5 and end up staying at the same weights while cutting I would say it would be a good indicator how good you are retaining muscle.

try cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach.

 

[anthrax]

i'm gonna be cutting soon and was wondering when is it recommended to do cardio on a 5x5 plan? i can't do it first thing in the morning. it doesn't fit in to my schedule. should i do it after weights? on rest days? everyday except sundays? i don't want to overtrain. thanks for all the help. karma will be rewarded.

First thing in the morning on an empty stomach would have been better but, since you can't, you'd better do your cardio on rest days

after training would be to catabolic (IMHO)

 

[sfreak49]

how about cardio spaced about 4-5 hours apart from weight lifting on lifting days? does that sounds ok? i would that it would lessen if not cancel any catabolism... and i would assume that it would still be better than cardio directly after weightlifting.

 

[Moderate_THIS]

First thing in the morning on an empty stomach would have been better but, since you can't, you'd better do your cardio on rest days

after training would be to catabolic (IMHO)

While you are derailing post workout recovery to a degree, this is actually a decent environment for fat loss. 30min at a lower intensity wouldn't be significantly catabolic. And weight lifting increases bloodstream FFA concentration which you'd be burning during cardio.

 

[Toozee]

Cardio after lifting seems to be ok for me (except on leg day). I only do about 2-3 sets of heavy stuff while I'm cutting though. Decreasing my volume while cutting, then adding cardio seems to work for me.
Best of luck...
-2z-

 

[SoreArms]

While you are derailing post workout recovery to a degree, this is actually a decent environment for fat loss. 30min at a lower intensity wouldn't be significantly catabolic. And weight lifting increases bloodstream FFA concentration which you'd be burning during cardio.

But you miss the (small) window for effective post workout nourishment.

Cardio on off days or in the morning would be best

I am the laziest person when it comes to waking up at 5 AM to do cardio, but I can do it (cause I want the results). Give it a shot.


BTW
If you train, then have your post work out shake, wait about 20 mins, then do cardio, would you still burn stored fat or would you burn some of what you just consumed?

 

[JKurz1]

why not do 10 minutes prior to training, train for 45 minutes and then dit an additional 10 minutes of higher intensity........if you are really pushed for time........IMHO, it's 99% diet anyways.........ok, 95%...........

 

[Moderate_THIS]

But you miss the (small) window for effective post workout nourishment.

Cardio on off days or in the morning would be best

I am the laziest person when it comes to waking up at 5 AM to do cardio, but I can do it (cause I want the results). Give it a shot.


BTW
If you train, then have your post work out shake, wait about 20 mins, then do cardio, would you still burn stored fat or would you burn some of what you just consumed?

If the shake was only protein, you'd probably be burning mostly fat. Any carbs and forget about it. Delaying PWO shake by 30min isn't the end of the world if you're cutting. Your muscles are sensitized to glucose for hours.