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500-750-725

How come whenever football players state their lifts it's round numbers like that?

Its never 492 lbs, 754 lbs, or 628 lbs, it's always an easy number

I always figured this was because they are FOS...

That kid is obviously strong though, just by the look of him.
 
Robert Jan said:
500-750-725

How come whenever football players state their lifts it's round numbers like that?

Its never 492 lbs, 754 lbs, or 628 lbs, it's always an easy number

I always figured this was because they are FOS...

That kid is obviously strong though, just by the look of him.
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Probably because in America our weights don't weigh 44lbs etc. We use 100,45,35,25,10,5, 2.5. Notice that when you hadd those up they always end in 5 or 0. CRazzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyy
 
crew9 said:
Probably because in America our weights don't weigh 44lbs etc. We use 100,45,35,25,10,5, 2.5. Notice that when you hadd those up they always end in 5 or 0. CRazzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyy
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kg rules!
 
crew9 said:
Probably because in America our weights don't weigh 44lbs etc. We use 100,45,35,25,10,5, 2.5.
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Exactly... We go by 5lb increments... also I think most americans go for round number goals... say if they hit 400, their next goal is 425... not 410, not 415, etc...

I was not saying his lifts were bad - but a 500lb bench is only 125% of his bodyweight....

If you are a 220lb linebacker 275lb bench would be not that great at all... (I am talking about high level recruits here)
 
I don't buy the squat & d/l numbers if they're raw. Those numbers are Ronnie Coleman territory.
 
Dial_tone said:
I don't buy the squat & d/l numbers if they're raw. Those numbers are Ronnie Coleman territory.
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The kid weighs 400lbs!

There was a shotputter I competed against in HS that had a legit 700lb squat... it is rare but not unheard of...
 
Dial_tone said:
I don't buy the squat & d/l numbers if they're raw. Those numbers are Ronnie Coleman territory.
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Those numbers are relatively tame for powerlifters. So lets not forget that Ronnie is a BBer not a strength athlete
 
crew9 said:
Those numbers are relatively tame for powerlifters. So lets not forget that Ronnie is a BBer not a strength athlete
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Powerlifters who have been training & juicing for many more years than this kid likely. I also find it odd that, since he's apparently a competitive lifter, all three max's would be a nice round number, even in America.

ADFPA National High School Records - Unlimited class (in lbs)
Squat J. WISNER 760.00 89
Bench Press J. WISNER 451.00 89
Deadlift J. WISNER 661.00 89

If true this kid would have destroyed two national records and only missed the 3rd by 10 lbs.
 
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Yeah but we all know what "high school lifts" are.

I bet the squat is a half squat, the deadlift a partial deadlift, and the bench press had a good "spot." Who knows, the bench press/deadlift might be legit, but I seriously doubt that the squat is deep.
 
Damn....imagine what this kid is gonna lift when he gets his 'man-strength' in the next few years. His muscles aren't even fully matured yet...potential to be ridiculously strong.
 
Dial_tone said:
Powerlifters who have been training & juicing for many more years than this kid likely. I also find it odd that, since he's apparently a competitive lifter, all three max's would be a nice round number, even in America.

ADFPA National High School Records - Unlimited class (in lbs)
Squat J. WISNER 760.00 89
Bench Press J. WISNER 451.00 89
Deadlift J. WISNER 661.00 89
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A former member of this board at 15 benched 500 and he hasn't juiced. There are a lot of strong people out there. Lots of them still in highschool and natural. Perhaps a venture outside C&C is in order?
 
crew9 said:
Probably because in America our weights don't weigh 44lbs etc. We use 100,45,35,25,10,5, 2.5. Notice that when you hadd those up they always end in 5 or 0. CRazzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyy
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yeah they always end in 5 or 0

but these always seem to end in 00, 25, 50, or 75
 
crew9 said:
A former member of this board at 15 benched 500 and he hasn't juiced. There are a lot of strong people out there. Lots of them still in highschool and natural. Perhaps a venture outside C&C is in order?
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My friend, I've been lifting weights since 1997. I am personal friends with several national champion powerlifters and BB'ers. I have a friend who competed in the Mr. Olympia and is lifetime drug-free so I've been on both sides of the believability fence. I have seen and heard more unbelievable stories than you can shake a stick at. Lift claims are like UFO sightings...a couple of them are true but 99.9999999% are flat out false. I will bet the keys to my car this kid cannot hit all three of those numbers in a sanctioned meet.
 
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god.....imagine that guy pulling and comin down the line at you where he has a chance to get some speed goin.....


especially a little shit like me
 
Robert Jan said:
Aint no people natty in the mr olympia.
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STFU, dutchboy.....you were like 5 when he did it so how would you know?
 
Dial_tone said:
My friend, I've been lifting weights since 1997. I am personal friends with several national champion powerlifters and BB'ers. I have a friend who competed in the Mr. Olympia and is lifetime drug-free so I've been on both sides of the believability fence. I have seen and heard more unbelievable stories than you can shake a stick at. Lift claims are like UFO sightings...a couple of them are true but 99.9999999% are flat out false. I will bet the keys to my car this kid cannot hit all three of those numbers in a sanctioned meet.
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This convo can end because my reading comprehension sucks. Didn't notice you were talking raw. Ill just quietly disappear into the shadows.
 
he is a bad ass for high school. maybe he will grow another foot and lose some fat, he could be NFL material if his tendons and ligaments hold up. And if he lays of the fokkin dawgyKremes!
 
Sh4dowF4lcon said:
he is a bad ass for high school. maybe he will grow another foot and lose some fat, he could be NFL material if his tendons and ligaments hold up. And if he lays of the fokkin dawgyKremes!
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i think he was the kid who when we played butler last year the whole stands chanted fat ass when he walked near the HS section, i also think we saw his head kinda stoop down after that...... not sure if it was him or a kid from another school. he is a monster tho
 
Dial_tone said:
I don't buy the squat & d/l numbers if they're raw. Those numbers are Ronnie Coleman territory.
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theres a guy at my gym who has done 625 for 1 with just kneewraps.

personally saw him yesterday do 550 for 5..slow and perfect form to parrallel.

And he's one of those guys that don't look like much either.
 
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this before, but:

Who cares if all those weights he's supposedly lifting are true - he still looks like shit.

There's one HS footballer who won't be banging any cheerleaders. :laugh2:
 
MAX 300 said:
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this before, but:

Who cares if all those weights he's supposedly lifting are true - he still looks like shit.

There's one HS footballer who won't be banging any cheerleaders. :laugh2:
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ya right...think again. popularity supercedes looks.
 
Burning_Inside said:
ya right...think again. popularity supercedes looks.
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That rule doesn't apply to fatsos with a revulting gut. It might help an average looking guy, but not a fat fucker.
 
Kind of a weak list of D1 schools offering scholorships
 
Dial_tone said:
My friend, I've been lifting weights since 1997. I am personal friends with several national champion powerlifters and BB'ers. I have a friend who competed in the Mr. Olympia and is lifetime drug-free so I've been on both sides of the believability fence. I have seen and heard more unbelievable stories than you can shake a stick at. Lift claims are like UFO sightings...a couple of them are true but 99.9999999% are flat out false. I will bet the keys to my car this kid cannot hit all three of those numbers in a sanctioned meet.
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I'll lay down a few grand as well. Those numbers are usually inflated for propaganda. I remember when they said Hershel Walker had 1% bodyfat.
 
That kid is way too fat. I could get incredible massive too if I ate as much as he does.
 
powerslave said:
Kind of a weak list of D1 schools offering scholorships
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doesnt matter, its d-1 offers. do you have any idea the type of player you have to be just to garner 1 d-1 offer let alone 5. sure it may be based on size alone but he has to have some athletic ability to get a scholly offer
 
MAX 300 said:
I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this before, but:

Who cares if all those weights he's supposedly lifting are true - he still looks like shit.

There's one HS footballer who won't be banging any cheerleaders. :laugh2:
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Because we all know that looks are what matters to college and NFL scouts.

"Man he can't block for shit but he sure does get the woman."
 
If he's anywhere close to those numbers he's still a strong boy. You can't really compare a 150 lb guy benching twice his bodyweight to a 400 lb guy. It doesn't extrapolate that way. In high school I benched 275 lbs at 163 lbs but we had a RB on the team about my size that did that the first time he walked in the gym. It took me 4 years.
 
jerkbox said:
god.....imagine that guy pulling and comin down the line at you where he has a chance to get some speed goin.....


especially a little shit like me
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Even worse , what if he was the lead block on a sweep and there was a 170lb db like I was in high school needing to make the play.... :destroy:

I bet deion encountered something like that in high school so he never hit people all throughout his career.
 
I played against the youngest Browner brother in high school, who you've never heard of because he was too dumb to stay in school. He was 6'2" 305 lbs back when 240 was considered a monster for a high schooler. Some of you old schoolers might remember his brothers Ross, Keith & Joey....all three played in the NFL.
 
Dial_tone said:
I played against the youngest Browner brother in high school, who you've never heard of because he was too dumb to stay in school. He was 6'2" 305 lbs back when 240 was considered a monster for a high schooler. Some of you old schoolers might remember his brothers Ross, Keith & Joey....all three played in the NFL.
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I played against the Boz. I was a running back and he played linebacker for Irving Mcarthur. I don't remember anything about him, he was all-district, all-state I think, he probably tackled me, but I don't remember. And those big, big motherfuckers were easy to avoid. Not quick enough.
 
Ray Crockett was my teammate. He had a 16 yr NFL career. He weighed about 145 when I was a senior and he was a sophomore. He was super fast and very cocky. I missed getting to play with Barry Foster by 2 years, good thing because I would have been sitting on the bench. He was one bad mofo in high school. Averaged over 10 yds per carry. He probably would have been a hall of fame back if not for career ending injuries..
 
I forgot....there was another Browner brother named Jim. Ross and Joey Browner were both first-round picks, Keith Browner was a second-round pick and Jim Browner was a 12th-rounder
 
gjohnson5 said:
Did you run him over like Bo?
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I doubt it, but I did run over a 265 pd. lineman by the name of Jerry Grumbine, he was all-state as well. I wasn't very big back then, but very strong. It was on a fake handoff. I had a running start and stuck my facemask in his chest. I heard him groan as he fell back. Very satisfying feeling.
 
biteme said:
Ray Crockett was my teammate. He had a 16 yr NFL career. He weighed about 145 when I was a senior and he was a sophomore. He was super fast and very cocky. I missed getting to play with Barry Foster by 2 years, good thing because I would have been sitting on the bench. He was one bad mofo in high school. Averaged over 10 yds per carry. He probably would have been a hall of fame back if not for career ending injuries..
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Ray Crocket was a good corner! Him and Rod Woodson when Rod was in his prime. 15+ years as an NFL corner. You have to be cocky being a cornerback because WR talk alot of trash... You take his best shot at getting open and shut him down if it's a man to man. That why I like deion the most because control a whole side of the field just by being there. He didn't hit anyone but they didn't throw his way either
 
he's big, but he's also a fat, fat turd. he could stand to lose a good 60lbs before he is classified as human imo...at least

anyway i hear you breed women stupid over there...im sure he will get laid

hell i had one asking my mate to hear my voice on the phone, simply because of the aussie thing...dummies lol (thankyou mel gibson! ;) )
 
It's typical for high school coaches to pad the numbers to get the recruiters to show up.
 
Bull fucking shit. No way is a 15 yr. old bench pressing 500 lbs.
 
Dial_tone said:
I will bet the keys to my car this kid cannot hit all three of those numbers in a sanctioned meet.
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I never disputed that ;)

And I hear what you are saying about not translatable smaller guys to bigger guys... obviously there are poundages where the gains start slowing...

for 400lb the guy has lots of useless mass (fat)
 
That's pretty impressive, but the numbers are most likely inflated. Furthermore, the guy weighs 400 pounds! He's benching 500 pounds. If we all weighed 400 pounds I'm sure we'd be benching in the 400-500 (some of us in the 600) range as well. Besides, this kid is such a tub of lard that he probably can only bring down the bar two inches.
 
deteras1 said:
A freind of mine benched 500 lbs as a senior in high school at around 250 lbs.
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I have this buddy, who has this buddy who knows someone whose brother used to bench 700 lbs with his feet when he was still in junior high.
 
deteras1 said:
A freind of mine benched 500 lbs as a senior in high school at around 250 lbs.
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so does my grandma - but she is 6'2 and runs a 4.4 40....

(movie reference)
 
Since everyone's bragging about who they played against in high school, I used to run over everyone with Bo Jackson in Techmo Bowl. Sometimes I would run back to my own goal line, run to the other team's 1 yard line, then back to my own goal line, then score the touchdown. It was probably the greatest run of all time. Some Forrest Gump shit.

Teenfreak over on irontryzzibe benched 500 at 15 yrs didn't he?
 
supersizeme said:
Since everyone's bragging about who they played against in high school, I used to run over everyone with Bo Jackson in Techmo Bowl. Sometimes I would run back to my own goal line, run to the other team's 1 yard line, then back to my own goal line, then score the touchdown.
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I hated dudes that did tha shit... I would have took your game and chucked that shit out the window...

When I was in my first year of FB camp in college was right when madden started being big (like 93)....

We still played tecmo all the time tho
 
Robert Jan said:
I have this buddy, who has this buddy who knows someone whose brother used to bench 700 lbs with his feet when he was still in junior high.
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STFU

I'm not bullshitting.I graduated with him.

Donnie Maib is his name,he was a starting lineman for the Georgia Bulldogs 90-92 and became their strenth coach after he graduated college,he stayed there for a few years but i haven't heard from him in a while.

He broke our high school record when he beched over 500 lbs.
 
If he went to UGA I'm legally required to believe his story. I went to a D-II school in Georgia and there was a guy on the football team that supposedly benched 600 lbs. The football team played D-III so he was a walk-on. This was back when the world record was 661.
 
Debaser said:
Yeah but we all know what "high school lifts" are.

I bet the squat is a half squat, the deadlift a partial deadlift, and the bench press had a good "spot." Who knows, the bench press/deadlift might be legit, but I seriously doubt that the squat is deep.
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Seriously dude... whut the fuck is that on your avatar? I keep looking at that shit trying to find a picture but nothing comes to mind.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Seriously dude... whut the fuck is that on your avatar? I keep looking at that shit trying to find a picture but nothing comes to mind.
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Karma to anyone that can tell him.

I'll give you a hint: it's the cover of an album.

Commence thread hijacking.
 
supersizeme said:
i would've told on you so fast, tough guy.
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if you gave me some chew back then and a 40 I would have let it go tho :)
 
Dial_tone said:
If he went to UGA I'm legally required to believe his story. I went to a D-II school in Georgia and there was a guy on the football team that supposedly benched 600 lbs. The football team played D-III so he was a walk-on. This was back when the world record was 661.
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It is very likely that the guy did bench 600, but you already know about all the special things that idiots do to help the lift (I'm sure his but was a good 3 feet off the bench just to name the most popular one).

I don't believe for a moment that he, or many of the other young guys mentioned on this thread hit their numbers with Kaz's strictness, or anything that even resembles it for that matter.
 
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