40 yrs old first cycle

[behrin]

Hello everyone ,

Been reading the forums for quite a long time and decided to start my first cycle :
40 yrs old , 180cm, 78kg 11.5% BF
3 day split workout scheme
Looking for lean gains , not after getting huge

Primobolan Depot (shering)
400mg week 1-12
Dbol 30mg week 1-5
Proviron 50mg week 1-16
Anavar 50mg week 8-13

PCT : Nolvadex 40mg week 13-15
Nolvadex 20 mg week 15-16
Arimidex on hand if i need it
Test E on hand if needed
Testogel on hand if needed

i dont want to add Test because of the aromatization and excessive bloat but will use it in case of libido problems

Thanks for your input

 

[RADAR]

What the hell? Who gave you that PCT protocol?
You will still suppress yourself so you havn't really come off!

Use NTBM Post Cycle and Unleashed RADAR15 will get you 15% off of these.

I cannot stress enough that PCT is more important than the cycle it self in keeping gains.

 

[behrin]

Okay , i'll do that , i understand the importance of PCT .

Do you guys recommend a PCT for me for above cycle so that i can do it?

Thx

 

[RADAR]

Okay , i'll do that , i understand the importance of PCT .

Do you guys recommend a PCT for me for above cycle so that i can do it?

Thx

Yes! get it from needtobuildmuscle.com use RADAR15 for a discount
Drop the nova and all of the rest you won't need it!

 

[JuiceMonkey123]

Hello everyone ,

Been reading the forums for quite a long time and decided to start my first cycle :
40 yrs old , 180cm, 78kg 11.5% BF
3 day split workout scheme
Looking for lean gains , not after getting huge

Primobolan Depot (shering)
400mg week 1-12
Dbol 30mg week 1-5
Proviron 50mg week 1-16
Anavar 50mg week 8-13

PCT : Nolvadex 40mg week 13-15
Nolvadex 20 mg week 15-16
Arimidex on hand if i need it
Test E on hand if needed
Testogel on hand if needed

i dont want to add Test because of the aromatization and excessive bloat but will use it in case of libido problems

Thanks for your input

First cycle?Then you are running way to many compounds.

In my opinion you shouldn't run orals for that long. If you are looking for lean mass dbol is not the way to go.

I would run a cycle if Test E ( test is the staple of all cycles) in low doses I.g 250mg a week for 10 weeks with Primo. In the alternative run test e by it self then and add anavar the last 6-7 weeks.

Also, your first cycle should not last more than 10 weeks.





Sometimes you are the bug.... Sometimes you are the windshield.

 

[RADAR]

How True!

 

[behrin]

Thank you guys , i'll work more on PCT and run Test E 250mg a week along with the primo

So now i have to figure out my PCT

What do you think of proviron though?

For PCT , i have Nolva/Arimidex/Proviron plus OTC stuff
These are all i have access to .

 

[deejleos]

500mg a week of Test for a first cycle does wonders! Keep an AI on hand, I love forma stanzol on cycle with unleashed/post cycle for PCT, u will love ur results!


Sent from my iPhone punk!

 

[gwilym]

500mg a week of Test for a first cycle does wonders! Keep an AI on hand, I love forma stanzol on cycle with unleashed/post cycle for PCT, u will love ur results!


Sent from my iPhone punk!

^^^this .. 39 years old (1st was 4 week dbol only not pct ..doh!!)
Done my 1st proper cycle test t400 10 weeks 500mg a week and proper pct very happy with outputs....

The best part of this is recovery is reasonably quick in comparison to when you use more compounds allowing you to try another cycle 14 weeks later if you wanted (which you will) keep it simple for your 1st cycle bro

 

[burnthiscorpse]

40 yrs old....first cycle....

250mg Test wk. You will get very nice results. No reason to jump into 500mg wk
I was 21 on my first cycle and 250mg test wk blew me up and totally changed my body composition. My diet wasnt even close to what it should have been. This was a long time ago mind you.
At 40 you should see awsome first cycle results with 250 mg test wk.
Then if you want to bump it or add primo on the 2nd cycle go for it.

 

[deejleos]

40 yrs old....first cycle....

250mg Test wk. You will get very nice results. No reason to jump into 500mg wk
I was 21 on my first cycle and 250mg test wk blew me up and totally changed my body composition. My diet wasnt even close to what it should have been. This was a long time ago mind you.
At 40 you should see awsome first cycle results with 250 mg test wk.
Then if you want to bump it or add primo on the 2nd cycle go for it.

Yeah but u were 21 doin 250mg a week not to mention u were still pretty young with a good amount of testosterone already flowing thru u, that's why u blew up, so at 40 yrs old doin 500mg a week is the same as a 21yr old doin 250mg a week....perhaps?


Sent from my iPhone punk!

 

[behrin]

Thank you very much guys for your valuable inputs

I'm definately adding 250mg Test E ( i want it easy on aromatization ) keeping the primo 400mg

Like i said i only have access to Nolva , proviron and arimidex for PCT . Could someone give me advice on that ? A PCT plan for what i have ?

Isn't it a good idea to keep the proviron during the cycle to minimize the aromatization ?

I live in Istanbul , Turkey and i got the primo depot presciption , so it will be legit from the pharmacy ( same for Test E and others except for dbol and anavar from a source that is legit too)

Cheers

 

[behrin]

Yes! get it from needtobuildmuscle.com use RADAR15 for a discount
Drop the nova and all of the rest you won't need it!

Can't buy from needtobuildmuscle.com , it will end up in customs , i live in Turkey

So like i said i only have access to Nolva/Arimidex/Proviron and some OTC

Thanks anyway

 

[RADAR]

Can't buy from needtobuildmuscle.com , it will end up in customs , i live in Turkey

So like i said i only have access to Nolva/Arimidex/Proviron and some OTC

Thanks anyway

Needto has another source for overseas shipping go to his site and look.

 

[behrin]

Needto has another source for overseas shipping go to his site and look.

Ok but the shipping is not the problem , the customs is.

i.e my shipment will never make it , it will end up in customs , i would never get it

Hope this clarifies .

 

[Colstreamer]

Ok but the shipping is not the problem , the customs is.

i.e my shipment will never make it , it will end up in customs , i would never get it

Hope this clarifies .

Why would Turkish customs seize herbal remedies sent from the US? There are no WADA banned substances in NTBM products as far as I know. Do you know of any ingredients in post cycle or unleashed which are illegal in Turkey? Import charges I could understand but you'd still get it.

 

[behrin]

Turkish customs seize anything in pill form whether it's herbal or not , even to clear the herbal pills from the customs ( i.e importing ) you have to acquire an official permit from the ministry of health , which is indeed a long and painful process , you gotta show lab results etc etc to make the import , so it is practically impossible for me

Anyone here recommends a PCT based on either Nolva, arimidex or proviron please

Cheers to all

PS: i'll cut down the cycle to 10 weeks , drop the dbol as you guys recommended , add 250mg Test E a week alongside with Primobolan depot 400mg and add anavar 50mg for the last 4 weeks .
Btw i forgot to mention that i had done 5 weeks of Anavar only cycle 2 yrs ago with about 2-3 kgs of lean muscle gain , so officially this would be my 2nd cycle , but the 1st one with injectables.

 

[Colstreamer]

Ah I see, UK customs tend to seize 50% of my stuff and charge import tax, even if it's labelled a gift or under $50 (£30) value they're only supposed to charge on a value over £35 and not on gifts...