3rd Cycle layout

[lithium1189]

Hey bros, just wanted some insight on finalizing my next cycle which I plan on running either June or July 1st, depending on when I'll be ready. What I mean by that is I am currently at about 14% BF and want to be at around 10-12 before I start this cycle. My stats are as follows:

Age: 24
Height: 5'7
Weight: 186
BF: 14%
Previous Cycles: Test P/Anavar and Sust 250/Dbol

Cycle:

1-10 Test P 100 mg EOD
1-10 Tren A 100 mg EOD
5-10 Winstrol 50 mg ED
6-10 hcg 500 ius week

Cycle support:

1-10 aromasin 12.5 mg EOD
1-10 n2guard
1-10 Prami (What does?)
Keto on hand
Letro on hand

PCT

11-14 clomid 25/25/25/25
11-14 Unleashed/post cycle combo
11-14 forma stanzol
11-14 daa powerchews
11-14 ostarine 25 mg day

So my main objective is to put on some lean mass and shed a little bit of fat, but that won't be my main concern considering Tren seems to cripple your cardio. It is my first time running tren as well. I have everything on hand right now, including pct. As I mentioned, before running this cycle I am going to drop to around the 10-12% BF range. I already tweaked my diet and training, doing much more cardio that usual.

So I am just looking to see if this layout looks pretty solid, or if I should add/subtract anything. I was wondering if adding some Tbol on week 1-4 would be ok. Test and tren will kick in pretty quick anyway but I was just curious how it would stack with a Tbol kicker. Or maybe run the winny for 10 weeks too, not sure if that's too much. As for that prami, I couldn't find a post here that gives out a solid dosage for it, everyone seems to run caber. Also got keto if I have a hard time getting sleep.

Thanks for the help!

 

[joeblow12345]

Everything looks solid. I'd seriously opt for caber though as being nautious isn't fun. I'd run the winny 6-8 weeks myself. The n2guard will cover you. I'd also consider running some n2burn and n2slin to enhance your pre cycle cut.


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[lithium1189]

Yeah I think ill bump the winny to 8 weeks. I've heard dbol and winny work really well together, don't get the bloat, is this true? And would it be overkill running 4 week dbol kicker with the 8 week winny?

 

[Pound4PoundAAS]

Yeah I think ill bump the winny to 8 weeks. I've heard dbol and winny work really well together, don't get the bloat, is this true? And would it be overkill running 4 week dbol kicker with the 8 week winny?

Not true at all. Plus, it'll be way too harsh on the liver. Winstrol is one of the most toxic orals on a mg basis. Don't consider using dbol, just stick with 4-6 weeks of Winstrol or Var.

 

[lithium1189]

Thanks for the help bros. Then I think I'll keep it simple and run winny 8 weeks.

 

[joeblow12345]

Yeah I think ill bump the winny to 8 weeks. I've heard dbol and winny work really well together, don't get the bloat, is this true? And would it be overkill running 4 week dbol kicker with the 8 week winny?

I haven't heard this of winny and dbol. I have heard this about winny and anadrol. I like anadrol more then dbol personally anyway. It wouldn't be something I'd recommend a newbie try but if your experienced then give it a go. I'd definitely have plenty of n2guard on hand.


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[lithium1189]

Yeah I don't think I'm at the point of stacking more then 2 or 3 compounds, I think I'll stick with the original plan and bump winny to 8 weeks.

 

[EZ_E]

Great cycle set up AND great PCT..

~EZ

 

[lithium1189]

I was wondering, if I were to add some transdermal tren and winny, would it be more beneficial at the start or blackend of cycle? Or does it make no difference. I kinda want to stick it at the start to see the potency.

 

[EZ_E]

If I run Prop/Tren A/Winny, I run the tren ace @ the beginning and winny @ the end...

~EZ

 

[ballslee]

I would not do the winny 8 weeks unless you get injectable or transdermal
you could opt for the kicker for 4 weeks. take 2 weeks off, killing liver supps, then take 4 weeks winny/var on the backend.
most will say not to do this though.....

 

[joeblow12345]

I was wondering, if I were to add some transdermal tren and winny, would it be more beneficial at the start or blackend of cycle? Or does it make no difference. I kinda want to stick it at the start to see the potency.

The good thing about the transdermal is you could run them the whole 12 weeks if you really wanted to. My standard tren runs are 12 weeks long. So being able to stack an oral transderm with it is awesome. They also have var and mast coming soon in the transdermals so that's another great cutting option.


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