3rd cycle...all Test, and lots of it!!!

[Japanese machine]

Well 1g of gear seems a bit excessive to me. I mean its your 3rd cycle and you already using a gram of test? granted test is the only gear in your cycle, but surely you dont need that much, for test is probably the best androgenic/anabolic combo there is. But hey its YOUR cycle.

Just keep a strong E suppressor, and im sure youll have fun

 

[serge]

Serge I gotta disagree. This is his third cycle! He'll just be wasting it.

with the right diet he will not, half of test will go into saturating his receptor sites, the "spill-over" will induce very strong anti-catabolic effect

 

[IronFist]

Damn bro, 750mgs of test? Be careful

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

Who are you guys? 1 gram of gear is fine, many on their 3rd are running waay more than that. It's cheap and effective, and not excessive at all IMO.

I'm hitting up about 500mg of prop/week for 3 weeks, then I'm throwing in 500mg of sust with the prop for 3 more weeks then going sust only at 750mg/week for the next 6 weeks. Thinking about going winny for 4 afterwards to help lean out any bloat and tighten up.

The question I have is, should I bump up to 1000mg/week? Should I down cycle my last 4 weeks (like 750, 500, 250, 250) before the winny? I've always had good success with test but I've never tried prop nor sust (only cyp and enath). Thanks bros!

Just swap it up man, start with the sust (@ 1gm a week) and a frontload (2 gm) the first week, till the 9th week (or earlier if you run out of sust) then switch to prop at 100mg ED for the next 3 weeks. Eat heavy, lift heavy and hard and you will grow. It's simple enough.

Oh yeah and use arimidex or fermara.

 

[hypershriek]

I have done high doses with not much effect keep it lowish, 750-1000mg

 

[mrt]

Re: Re: 3rd cycle...all Test, and lots of it!!!

Who are you guys? 1 gram of gear is fine, many on their 3rd are running waay more than that. It's cheap and effective, and not excessive at all IMO.



Just swap it up man, start with the sust (@ 1gm a week) and a frontload (2 gm) the first week, till the 9th week (or earlier if you run out of sust) then switch to prop at 100mg ED for the next 3 weeks. Eat heavy, lift heavy and hard and you will grow. It's simple enough.

Oh yeah and use arimidex or fermara.

What are you talking about, man? I hope you're not serious when suggesting a steroid novice to take 1gr of test with 2gr frontloading

STOP making insane and irresponsible suggestions to novices.

 

[IronFist]

Re: Re: Re: 3rd cycle...all Test, and lots of it!!!

What are you talking about, man? I hope you're not serious when suggesting a steroid novice to take 1gr of test with 2gr frontloading

STOP making insane and irresponsible suggestions to novices.

i don't find that insane at all...1 gram of gear a week isn't that much for a third cycles. A typical first cycle for most people is usually around 600-800mg of gear a week, so i don't find that to be outrageous or unsafe...

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

Re: Re: Re: 3rd cycle...all Test, and lots of it!!!

What are you talking about, man? I hope you're not serious when suggesting a steroid novice to take 1gr of test with 2gr frontloading

STOP making insane and irresponsible suggestions to novices.

He's not a novice pal this is his 3rd cycle. And yes that's is exactly what I'm suggesting, and it is neither insane or irresponsible. Take a look at what serge said this is a great point (and saves me some typing):

"the average (cycle) would look something like this:

test 500mg/week
eq or deca 400mg/week
dbol 30mg/ed

500mg/test+400mg/deca+30mg/dbol*7( 7 days in one week)=500+400+210=1110mg/gear/week; and this would be considered mild cycle, yet its over 1g/gear/week"

the total mg, matters, so what if one cycle is just test and the other is 3 differnt AAS? It would matter if it was all Anadrol or Halo of course, but not with non-17aa's.

Lets get some stats on the guy, Razor give us your height, weight, age, previous cycles, some measurements and maybe some 1RM of the big lifts.

 

[Muscleguy40oz]

Bro in my oppinion i would not taper up the test...I would run it for 750 mgs for the whole cycle...I dont think you need to bump it up to 1g on your third cycle...i think that would just be a waste of test...Wait till later cycles to jump that high....

Muscleguy

 

[McBane]

I think what some are failing to realize though is that total gear/week isn't the main factor. The drugs used play a major role. How about doing 1gram of dbols in a week? By that reasoning there would be no difference between this and a 400mg of EQ and 600mg of test/week cycle.

The same analogy could be applied to recreational drugs. It's like saying that snorting a gram of coke is the same as smoking a gram of weed. Obviously they are not the same.

While as a general guideline the total gear/week may be a nice guideline, it is nothing more imo. What were your past cycles, how much did you gain off them? What are your stats (weight, height and bf estimate)?

If you have never done close to a gram of test you will not have a good idea of whether or not you will experience side effects. Imo it is best to ease into dosages, (i.e. first cycle maybe 500mg of test/week, 2nd cycle 600-800mg of test, 3rd cycle 800-1000mg of test that is if your goal is to buildup to 1g of test/week by your third cycle, imo for most this is overkill). If you haven't done close to this amount of gear before I would lower the dosages.