This has been a real issue as of late, and its always the same responses. I dont care where you got the gear, It bet its bunk as shit. This has/and is becoming a big problem. If its underdosed, increase it to higher levels. I mean keep increasing it, and if still nothing, welcome to the crowd, its bunk. Diet, training, and rest aside, I dont care. Not even a side effect. Horseshit. If you have to guess whether or not you stuff is good, its probably not. You can beat yourself up and try to figure out what you are doing wrong, but your just going to get the same results, except you will be even more frustrated. When(or if now a days) you ever get the real deal you will know. And you will be pissed. Period. I dont care how good your source is. I know for a fact, a fact, even the most popular ones have sold bunk.