3 week cycles?any research ?

[skaman007]

hi ,i ve just been reading sum old threads from 2003-2004 ,where people where debating the use of short cycle 3week blitzs,,opinions were split back then,,now 5 years later ,are people still doing them ?and have they became more popular?.im specifically looking for answers on blitz cycles as in 3 on/6 0ff type ,,.cheers

 

[lookinfit75]

What post did you read? Bump it so we can check it out lol.

 

[skaman007]

cant find it again now,lol...some guy was slagging 3week cycles off and nelson was saying they had there place for good safe gains.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Lots of confusing and conflicting info on short cycles. In short, I think shorter cycle are best IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY HPTA.

Best gains are made early in a cycle if you train and diet correctly. Gains subside after 4 weeks but most people don't see results until after a month because...again...they don't train and diet properly. This is where the myth of testosterone taking a certain amount of time to "kick in" comes from -- from inexperienced guys using steroids before understanding the mechanisms of muscle growth.

In the past, when nolva and clomid were the only PCT choices I would have encouraged 4 week cycles. Today, with adex and supps like UNLEASHED and the use of HCG and HMG, I think 6 weeks is best and 8 weeks is maximum IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY HPTA.

Even with the best PCT if you do several 16 week cycles, your HPTA will most likely never fully recover. That's reality.

 

[skaman007]

Lots of confusing and conflicting info on short cycles. In short, I think shorter cycle are best IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY HPTA.

Best gains are made early in a cycle if you train and diet correctly. Gains subside after 4 weeks but most people don't see results until after a month because...again...they don't train and diet properly. This is where the myth of testosterone taking a certain amount of time comes from -- from inexperienced guys using steroids before understanding the mechanisms of muscle growth.

In the past, when nolva and clomid were the only PCT choices I would have encouraged 4 week cycles. Today, with adex and supps like UNLEASHED and the use of HCG and HMG, I think 6 weeks is best and 8 weeks is maximum IF YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN A HEALTHY HPTA.

Even with the best PCT if you do several 16 week cycles, your HPTA will most likely never fully recover. That's reality.

ok,,is hcg needed if you do say a 6week cycle of test prop ?whta length do you think is good for someone who has only one cycle of 12 weekes test under there belt?

 

[Nelson Montana]

ok,,is hcg needed if you do say a 6week cycle of test prop ?whta length do you think is good for someone who has only one cycle of 12 weekes test under there belt?

HCG helps. It isn't a cure. I already said that length is dependent on your goals.

 

[lookinfit75]

Nelson,
You've mentioned HMG quite a few times as of late. What is it and why do you prefer it over HCG?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson,
You've mentioned HMG quite a few times as of late. What is it and why do you prefer it over HCG?

Instead of simulating the effects of LH, HMG actually raises it, so the body is working optimally in a very natural way. It does the same thing as HCG, but better and with a bigger libido spike and less estro elevation.

 

[daveyboy2345]

dianabol and test suspension would work fine in a 3-4 week cycle. 4 weeks on 8 weeks off repeat.

dbol 20-50 mgs weeks 1-3
susp.50-100 mgs weeks 1-4

 

[manboy]

are we still talking about the 3 week cycle?

 

[wolfman87]

suspension would not be a good choice for someone with only 1 cycle under their belt. hell some people never do that. stick with the prop fo sho.

 

[OMEGA]

in short there is almost always some reason for variation in cycle length

3 weekers make sense to me only if someone it already in GREAT condition and just want to have more POP out power for Pics or Magazine covers etc.