2nd cycle ---

[machaveli]

I'll be starting my 2nd cycle next week and was curious on what you guys thought. My stats are 5'10 170 pounds 11bf%.Looking to put on 20-25 pounds!!!!
My cycle looks like this:

weeks 1-10 500mg/w ICN test. enthanate
week 6-12 50mg/d fina
week 12-13 1500iu Organon HCG
week 13 100mg/d clomid
week 14 50mg/d clomid
Nolvadex on hand
supplements include:
600mg/d ALA
20mg/ glutamine
1000 mg/d vitex
1000mg/d cranberry xtract

Suggestings if any!!! Thanks

 

[Canuck4]

Looks solid bro.

 

[Golden_Muscle]

milk thistle to help liver.

 

[The Terminator]

Up the gluatamine to 20 GRAMS/day and up the ALA to maybe 3g./day

 

[serge]

i would crank tren all the way through,

 

[machaveli]

thanks for the help bro's!!! I'll up my supplements bu i have only 50ml of tren.

 

[BigAndy69]

I don't like it.

Where's the prop at the end?

Here's what I would do:

W1-6: Test enanathate
W1-4: Dbol winny or anavar
W7-12: Test prop
W6-12: Fina

 

[akathegame]

The cycle is good, but the problem is your goals are bigger. At 170, 25lbs is a big increase in weight especially if you are looking for clean gains. I think the test at 500mg stright through is fine and the fina is good for those last six weeks, but I think your best bet is running dbol for the first 6 weeks. Nothing major, just 20-25mg daily will do wonders. I mean the 5 lbs you should gain the first week from dbol, which is the fastest starter I know of, will do wonders. If gyno and blood pressure aren't a problem I'd carry as much water weight as you can for those first few weeks as it will help your mass gains. You'll lose some of it when you switch to treb. and the rest can be lost post cycle. Your goals are attainable, but you gotta hit everything hard. The gym, the dinner table, the bed. The gear parts easy.

 

[machaveli]

that was inspirational. thanks bro. I'm gonna try to get my hands on some dbol and eat like a pig.

 

[akathegame]

Mach, I don't mean to respond to a question with a question, but I think it could be relevent. I've personally nvere thought too much of hcg. The stuff causes some serious estro issues for me which far outweigh any gainskeeping benefits. I will tell you though that the stuff can really cause a good burst of strength gains, but we have our actual gear for that purpose. The question I've taken the long road to getting to is to ask how many vets use hcg and do they feel that its better to run hcg post cycle followed by clomid or run clomid throughout the entire cycle. I know for me there no question, the clomid for the whole cycle is my choice. I find my natural test doesn't drop nearly as low with this method, yes folks I had it monitored before during and post cycle. Additionally, I'm gyno prone and that makes hcg a pain in the ass no matter which way you cut it and clomid is also a moderate anti-estro. Just some points to consider bro. I'm also interested to see what others prefer. Out.