29.3 % body fat :( wow...

[automaticj5]

Needless to say I was dissapointed when I got tested today -- I figured I was somewhere around 20-22% but what do I know, obvioulsy... either way -- I basically want to get down to around the 15 area...

I will be getting tested every 2 weeks for 6 months...

Obvioulsy some things will be changing, diet, and more cardio...

What do you think a realistic goal would be for me as far as dropping my % per month?

 

[silver_shadow]

what's your current weight? and once you decide on it can you plz close this poll? we have a lot of asshats who bump old threads by voting on outdated polls.

 

[StuWard]

I will be getting tested every 2 weeks for 6 months...

Would you post updates after each test along with what you changed each time so we can see what works and what doesn't? I expect you can loose 3-4% fat per month at first slowing down as you get closer to your goal but you could reach your goal within the 6 months.

What type of testing are you having done?

Stu

 

[automaticj5]

check out www.targetmetabolism.com -- its a place right by my house -- its a bod pod and then I think the other test I havent done yet -- but willl be included in my monthly fee will be something to test my metabolism rate... also I get 30 min of massage every 2 weeks

Yes I will post updates after each time I test(every 2 weeks)

Thank you.

 

[Lee]

Order some Lipoflame, itll help.

 

[automaticj5]

Just received my lipostack yesterday... so I will see how that goes... Thanks

 

[perp69]

How was your BF tested?

Perp

 

[automaticj5]

In a machine called a Bod Pod

I am currently 6'1 230lbs

 

[OMEGA]

Listen don't pay attention to those devices ( I have seen radical inconsistencies)

the ONLY method that is 100% correct in the Water Method

 

[automaticj5]

I wonder if I can find a place around here to test my bf in the water? I will search for a place and see how consistent the bod pod is with it -- but for 89 bucks it seems like an awesome deal -- shit just for the 30 min massage twice a week it might be worth it... lol

 

[StuWard]

Try the bod pod. It's better than a poke in the eye. It may not be perfect but it's probably close enough.

 

[automaticj5]

Yeah thats what I get to do with the package -- and thats what I did to get the 29.3% -- I get to do the bod pod 2x a month... its "supposedly" 99% accurate or somethin...

 

[automaticj5]

Ok -- so the update for you all -- usually I will be tested every 2 weeks, however this time it was just 8 days -- and I was impressed with myself... I dropped 1.6% body fat and lost lost over 3lbs total and gained 3lbs of muscle... thats all over an 8 day period

230.5lbs to 227.7lbs.....

 

[StuWard]

Well done, however keep in mind that there is an error range. You're reading will not be as accurate as that. If they claim 99% accuracy that really means you are between 1 and 5# change. If their claim is faulty, the uncertainty could be larger.

Nevertherless it must be gratifying to see that progress and lets hope it continues. Remember it's the long term trend that will show the progress.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Needless to say I was dissapointed when I got tested today -- I figured I was somewhere around 20-22% but what do I know, obvioulsy... either way -- I basically want to get down to around the 15 area...

I will be getting tested every 2 weeks for 6 months...

Obvioulsy some things will be changing, diet, and more cardio...

What do you think a realistic goal would be for me as far as dropping my % per month?

Your probably one of those guys who stands around posing and flexing his big (fatty) muscles. LOL.

 

[automaticj5]

Well done, however keep in mind that there is an error range. You're reading will not be as accurate as that. If they claim 99% accuracy that really means you are between 1 and 5# change. If their claim is faulty, the uncertainty could be larger.

Nevertherless it must be gratifying to see that progress and lets hope it continues. Remember it's the long term trend that will show the progress.

Yeah -- thats my thing -- I can't wait to see the results in 2 weeks -- to see the consistency... and then so on...

 

[automaticj5]

Your probably one of those guys who stands around posing and flexing his big (fatty) muscles. LOL.

Nope I am the guy trying to get in shape -- and you are a dumbass.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Nope I am the guy trying to get in shape -- and you are a dumbass.

I couldn't help myself.

The amount of water you have in your body can throw off the test BTW. 1 lb of fat loss a week is reasonable. After that you'll probably be losing more muscle than fat.

You answered? Do you stand around posing in the gym?

 

[automaticj5]

lol -- I am no where near standing around posing in the gym -- your making fun of someone that is trying to lose weight and gain muscle? I think you may be in the wrong place -- most people in here are doing one or the other or both... Just a wild guess -- number 2 -- Yeah water weight can throw some tests off, however, when you dont drink or eat 4 hours prior -- it gets pretty accurate -- if you dont have anything constructive to say -- why waste your time?

 

[Papa Lion]

actually 4 hours really isn't enough time to discharge water weight and food... it takes days to get most excess water weight out and food well depending on what and where you ate that's another story as well!! if it's mexican food off a truck... seems anything between 15 minutes and and a couple hours.... seriously though food takes quite a while to digest and pass through the sysem entirely ie what you ate yesterday is usually what you will be shitting today!! there is also the "drift" which is what wrestlers refer to losing anything between about a .5 lbs. up to about 2 lbs. (for the bigger boys or when not cutting) and when I say cutting I mean cutting in wrestler speak. which is to drop all excess water in very short periods of time and gaining it back in short periods of time ie the my personal records for most weight hit in the shortest time was 22.25 in 6 days and 11.5 in 22 hours the methods for dropping such drastic weights are dangerous and it is strictly water weight!! anyways just keep clear goals that are not drastic. it's a lifestyle... it comes with time, so take it slow and steady!! good luck

 

[Papa Lion]

Listen don't pay attention to those devices ( I have seen radical inconsistencies)

the ONLY method that is 100% correct in the Water Method

can you line this water method out a little?? I'm assuming you mean getting dunked, right?? what exactly is the rest of this method? it seems to me that if you are mostly muscle that you could come out with the same reading as someone takin up the same mass with fat... correct me if I'm wrong.... just don't know too much about it!!

 

[OMEGA]

Dunking yes

its the 100% sure way, but you have to prepare a day in advance for it, to get a clear reading.

I am unaware of new devices that may be effective though

 

[gjohnson5]

I dunno.
I've been able to maintain 10lb's a month weight loss
I hope it has been mostly fat and water but there has been a strength drop.

 

[automaticj5]

I think you outta read up and do some research on the bod pod -- seems like its pretttttttttttttttttty accurate...

 

[gjohnson5]

If you know you're about 30% body fat , what does it really matter?
Wait until you get the bodyfat down and then worry about the bod pod...

Now is the time to put in the work to burn the fat , not worrying if your percentage is 26 , 29 , 32 , 34. Bodyfat calipers I believe have a 7% margin of error if the procedure was done correctly. But even so you still have lots of work to do regardless...

I think you outta read up and do some research on the bod pod -- seems like its pretttttttttttttttttty accurate...

 

[automaticj5]

For sure -- I have tons of work -- I dont know -- the reason I did the whole deal with "Target Metabolism" is my room mate and I kind of have our own contest per 2 weeks... so we could tested that often to lose a certain amount... we have our goals and its just extra motivation knowing you are going to get tested every 2 weeks... plus full access to a registered dietician(which means nothing cuz I have this forum).....

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Listen don't pay attention to those devices ( I have seen radical inconsistencies)

the ONLY method that is 100% correct in the Water Method

I thought the bod pod used water to do this?

 

[StuWard]

It uses air pressure but it is a displacement method so it's similar in that regard.

 

[automaticj5]

you sit in an egg and yes -- its air pressure... www.targetmetabolism.com explains it or google bodpod...

 

[Tatyana]

Comparison of the Bod Pod and dual energy x-ray absorptiometry in men
Stephen D Ball et al 2004 Physiol. Meas. 25 671-678 doi:10.1088/0967-3334/25/3/007


PDF (215 KB) | References



Stephen D Ball1 and Thomas S Altena2
1 Exercise Physiology Laboratory, Department of Nutritional Sciences, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO, USA
2 Department of Health, Physical Education and Recreation, Southwest Missouri State University, Springfield, MO, USA
E-mail: [email protected]

Abstract. The majority of studies investigating the accuracy of the Bod Pod have compared it to hydrostatic weighing (HW), the long held, and perhaps outdated 'gold standard' method of body composition analysis. Much less research has compared the Bod Pod to dual energy x-ray absorptiometry (DXA), a technique that is becoming popular as an alternative reference method.

The purpose of this study was to compare per cent fat estimates by the Bod Pod to those of DXA in a large number of men. Participants were 160 men (32 ± 11 years). Per cent body fat was estimated to be 19.4 ± 6.8 and 21.6 ± 8.4 for DXA and the Bod Pod, respectively. Although the two methods were highly correlated (0.94), the mean difference of 2.2% was significant (p < 0.01).

The amount of difference increased as body fatness increased (p < 0.0001). The results of this study indicate that a difference between methods existed for our sample of men. It is uncertain exactly where the difference lies.

Practitioners should be aware that even with the use of technologically sophisticated methods (i.e., Bod Pod, DXA), differences between methods exist and the determination of body composition is at best, an estimation.Keywords: body composition, air displacement plethysmography, hydrostatic weighing, body fat

Print publication: Issue 3 (June 2004)


As long as you see your bodyfat going down, and use the same method, first thing in the morning etc, in a lot of ways it doesn't really matter what you use.

Personally, I prefer those cheap accumeasure white plastic calipers, one site measurement. They are easy to use, you can do it yourself............

I also have a BMI scale (Tanita IMHO makes the best ones). Again, not that accurate, but if the readings go down over the weeks.......I use it moreso to track my lower body fat, cause I don't think it really does an overall reading all that well. I also programmed it slightly differently, as these scales do not have programs suited for bodybuilders really.

 

[redguru]

I AGREE with Tatyana here, any method is worthwhile as long as you use it to track Δbf and not the actual %bf.

 

[mad_monkey59]

Needless to say I was dissapointed when I got tested today -- I figured I was somewhere around 20-22% but what do I know, obvioulsy... either way -- I basically want to get down to around the 15 area...

I will be getting tested every 2 weeks for 6 months...

Obvioulsy some things will be changing, diet, and more cardio...

What do you think a realistic goal would be for me as far as dropping my % per month?

Adjust you thinking.

What I mean by that is don't be put off by having a high bf percentage.

You look a certain way now at 29.3%, imagine you looked the same way and you had 20% bf... you have less room for improvement at the lower percentage.

The point is, don't think of the figure and be ashamed of it, look at it like a target and feel glad of the improvements you can make over the next few months by dropping the %.

I would feel alot worse if I looked like a fatty at 15%, then if I looked the same at 50%.

 

[automaticj5]

Haha thats true -- good point... The bod pod is killin me - It has almost turned de-motivating... But I kinda started skipping appts because I was seeing the results I expected on the paper, but everyone else and myself see the results on my body, as long as I lean out a bit and keep getting stronger, I know I am headed the right direction!

Thanks

 

[Synpax]

Listen don't pay attention to those devices ( I have seen radical inconsistencies)

the ONLY method that is 100% correct in the Water Method

Actually, an autopsy is equally correct.