27 pounds on first cycle..... and only 5 weeks in....

[mavox]

Not to sound condecending, but if thats the case then please explain to me how someone such as myself (268 lb) would be able to get the protein I need?

By your theory I would need to eat every two hours for 20hrs of my day and leave me 4 hours to sleep and still be 50 grams of protein short of my requirment. How does that work?
If my body doesnt use the protein I put in it then why, an hour after I eat 10oz of chicken am I starving like I havnt eaten in 12 hrs?

I believe your theory would be fine for 175lb people. But it is impossible to execute in a 250-275lb body builder and have them still get enough protein.

ok. im close to your weight so i def understand. a 15-16 hour day at 45grams every 2hours. thats 8 meals at 45grams. 8x45. thats 360grams, not only that your allowed to eat 60 grams for your first meal, so really 380grams per day, still not enough? you said you would need to eat for 20 hours at my logic, so that every 2 hours at 45grams. hmmm, 450grams?

its not my theory, but its a fact that the body wastes all protein over 45gram mark with the exception of the morning hours. just b/c our muscles are bigger doesnt mean our internals have grown to adjust, their are ways around it however.

 

[Muscle Overkill]

I hope you know about PCT because if not you will crash hard !

 

[new2juice23]

yes i know about PCT and im pretty confident in mine too

 

[hooverdeuce]

This post should be stickied to show what NOT to do. I hope you make good gains and all but it's pretty obvious that you didn't train hard or eat well prior to starting this..

 

[new2juice23]

yes we've obviously already established that but thanks

 

[digit0x]

hey bro I know this will be something you mite not want to here but you will get it from a lot of members here... you are going to need to eat and I mean eat good... if you are at 175 or 185 pounds then you will need to take in about 200 grams of protein a day cut up into 5 meals..... This is the only way to pack on slabs of musical... I train hard but I eat harder to ad pounds to my frame....

Musical... LAWL

ok now that you've been flammed for 5 pages straight, I'm gonna change the tone. Keep in mind what they've all said because the bros are mostly right.

First, congrats on your 30 lbs you must feel like jesus right now. Fact: it is mostly water. No getting around it. You will shrink when you finish.

However, if your PCT is in check, you can learn something and gain a few pounds.

1. Eat like an elephant. Look through nutrition/diet threads
2. Lift hard & often. look through lifting threads, dial in a good routine.

Stay focused! Eat and lift consistently through your PCT and don't get distracted.

If you can keep with it, you may keep 20 lbs all said and done.


Good luck!

oh, and becareful not to hurt yourself in the gym!

 

[new2juice23]

thanks man. i would still be happy with 20lbs and i am very dedicated to this

 

[Muscle Overkill]

I hate to bust your buuble but there is no way in hell he is going to keep 20lbs. He is gonna piss 7 lbs of water out the first week its out of his system. If you keep 10 QUALITY lbs consider it a very successful cycle !

 

[hooverdeuce]

Your training and diet need some work. I'll hit give you some advice on training:

1. I think you should switch to a 3 on 1 off routine with a pull day, push day, leg day, and a rest day.

2. Use mostly heavy compound lifts like deads, squats, rows, presses, etc.

3. Lower your rep range to 4-8 per set.

I'm only trying to help and I believe this will help you add quite a bit more mass/strength than what you are doing now.

 

[MuscleTsunami]

If havn't been on HCG throughout your cycle make sure to use it with your PCT. Change up your routine a little after you come off as well because over training during PCT is just as bad as under training.