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eatmyass
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eq 300 a wk and 25 ed of winny due the trick? yes also cardio which i do twice a week and only eat like 2-3 meals a day still have high bf
bigrand said:
I don't follow guidlines, just make sure I don't eat carbs ... and it actually works for me without even getting hungry anymore.
I know my calories are around 2000 though, kinda low maybe but I am maintaining my strength. I recently started carbing up once every 6days.
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satchboogie
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Dial_tone said:
also would be ideal to do a.m cardio for 20-30 minutes 5 times a week preferably after a generous amount of efedrine. the key is the timing of food intake and the types of foods.
should take no more than 6 months if done properly.\\
good luck
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satchboogie
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wait a minute, i think i misunderstood the post...
do you wanna drop down to 6% or just drop down from 26 to 20?
when i mentioned 6 months, i was basing that on a reduction from 26 to 6.
do you wanna drop down to 6% or just drop down from 26 to 20?
when i mentioned 6 months, i was basing that on a reduction from 26 to 6.
pennypacker
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satchboogie said:
either way, you definitely don't need to use AS at this point. Just improving your diet and increasing (starting?) cardio will do wonders. Save the drugs until you are at least down to 10%bf. Anything before that is just a waste -- especially winstrol, which, if you have the depots, is quite expensive.
AlbinoAssassin
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That's a huge drop in bodyfat, it will take time. I agree with most everyone else, increase the frequency of feedings and up the cardio. I don't know a whole lot about what the gear will do in terms of weight loss. Sounds to me like you need to get your diet and cardio in check and then gear up when the going gets tough. At that high of a bodyfat it shouldn't be difficult to drop some serious weight relatively quickly. I would save the gear until you get closer to single digits. Good luck!
AlbinoAssassin
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I'm a dumbass! If I learned to read I might have been able to help a little more. You want to drop 6%, not drop to 6%. Sorry about that. You should be able to drop 6% no problem. You dont' need gear to do it though. You shouldn't lose hardly any muscle only going to 20% BF. I don't know what your genetic predisposition towards leanness is, but I would be willing to bet that if you just increased meals to 5-6 a day and upped the cardio to 4-5 days a week at 15-45 minutes a session. The 15 represents high intensity days (days you aren't weight training). Hope that was a little more beneficial. It would help a little more if I knew the basics of your diet. If you can post that, I'm sure we could help more.
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eatmyass
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well i don't really lift any more its been 8 months but i run 2 times a week will bump it to 3-4 times cardio 2 miles each time i run. i don't even look like i have that much bf but i guess i do 20 or below is more ideal for me usually i eat 2 or 3 times a day i need clen to assist
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satchboogie
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Citruscide
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Strap sled to your back and run across Alaska for the Iditarod.
Definately a lower carb diet... if not REALLY low carb diet.
I don't think AAS is your solution... You should be able to diet/cardio down to a reasonable bf%... and after a good year or so of working out... then you can start to THINK about using AS...
C-ditty
Definately a lower carb diet... if not REALLY low carb diet.
I don't think AAS is your solution... You should be able to diet/cardio down to a reasonable bf%... and after a good year or so of working out... then you can start to THINK about using AS...
C-ditty
Everyone has pretty much pointed it out, but I'd like to back a CKD diet as well. When I diet, I usaully keep my carbs <20grams a day, bump up my protein another 100 or more, cut my lifting back with more days rest, and definitely get enough sleep. Of course, this is in addition to the 30-45min cardio 5 days a week, and around 1700 calories, split between 6-7 meals. Remember to keep yourself extremely well hyrdated.
It's important to note that staying on something like this for an extended period of time isn't neccessarily healthy. I usaully will keep on a CKD diet for a maximum of around 4 weeks.
I find anything less than 10% to be extremely difficult for myself to stay at. I think it would be best to concentrate on a smaller, shorter goal first, like 15%. Dropping 11% would be a huge accomplishment, I think.
It's important to note that staying on something like this for an extended period of time isn't neccessarily healthy. I usaully will keep on a CKD diet for a maximum of around 4 weeks.
I find anything less than 10% to be extremely difficult for myself to stay at. I think it would be best to concentrate on a smaller, shorter goal first, like 15%. Dropping 11% would be a huge accomplishment, I think.
AlbinoAssassin
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Dzuljas, what I meant by 15 representing the days you don't weight train was to do only 15-20 minutes of high intensity cardio (at about 85%MHR). This increases caloric burning all day via increased oxygen consumption. High intensity cardio boosts metabolism all day as opposed to lower intensity cardio for longer sessions which doesn't have much of an impact on the rest of your day in terms of burning calories. Sorry if my initial post was confusing, I didn't clarify very well.
Sigmund Roid
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pennypacker said:
I agree, when you have that high fat %, your burning ratio of fat/muscle will be very very high, like 9:1 or 10:1. No roids needed at your stage. However the ratio drops when you get under 10% and then it may be advisable to use low-dosage roids.
I hate to chime in and say the same thing but, ditto on the cardio at least 4 times a week. I also recommend a CKD diet. I don't know anything about using gear to lean up, just for bulking. My personal opinion based on experience and study is that you need to also use weights in a high paced circuit training to really get good results. I know that not a lot of people will agree with that, but I have seen great results when I've done that in the past. Other than that be strong, and work hard.
Think of your body like a camp fire........How do You get it Raging into fat burning mode???
Feed it small doses of dry wood !!
dry wood=clean foods
5 to 6 clean doses a day
cardio
Buy a HRM stay in that 65% to 70% range You might be suprised it may only be a brisk walk of easy jog for you and you will be able to do that for 45 to 60 min and YEP 4 times per week
Last but not least........Keep Lifting !!
Feed it small doses of dry wood !!
dry wood=clean foods
5 to 6 clean doses a day
cardio
Buy a HRM stay in that 65% to 70% range You might be suprised it may only be a brisk walk of easy jog for you and you will be able to do that for 45 to 60 min and YEP 4 times per week
Last but not least........Keep Lifting !!
Shit, I used to have a similar bodyfat percentage and i'll have to agree with the folks stating you don't need AAS! Just hit the cardio 5-6 times a week preferably on an empty stomach, and eat fewer cals. I wouldn't bother with a CKD diet unless you're at a lower bodyfat percentage, as most people that do it will get a rebound when they resume normal eating.
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eatmyass
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well guys i hear you i guess carbs is the killer here hard to avoid carbs though since i don't get a home cooked meal now does r-ala really eliminate carbs? i jog twice a week will up that to 3 times a week can't over do it due to shin splints. as far as workout goign back to it i might just wait 2 months and jump on a winny and clen cycle or eq and winny. also what do youy guys think of using nolva on its own could help with some bf?
MrMakaveli
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No drugs..12*bodyweight in Cals/6 meals + low carbs - period.
powerforward
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MrMakaveli said:
perfect advice.
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eatmyass
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no you polak not looking for a magic pill the as is to improve endurance so i can longer and faster as well as built strength up wasn't saying thats the soley reason i was going to use it for bf reduction but i have seen many drop bf from it bf reduction is my second goal i just typed my first goal
eatmyass said:
Why don't you get a home cooked meal? Everyone has time to eat. If your pressed for time during the day, just make some food the night before, and bring it to work. I used to cook chicken strips for lunch when I was busy, or you can just go to a grocery store and buy a bag of turkey and eat it. There's no excuse for not being able to change the way you eat. Period.
I tend to get shin splits whenever I run alot, so I use the eliptical when I need to do cardio. Lately I've been biking outdoors alot, during the winter I snowboard, and this summer I'm going to learn how to rollerblade. My point is, find something that's low impact and do it. If you need to learn something new, like how to bike, all the better. If you belong to a gym, the group exercise classes are also a good cardio workout, plus you might meet some people that are in similar situations as yourself and you can all learn from each other.
You should start working out now, not only when you are going to do a cycle. Lifting off cycle will help you learn how to train effectively, and help you learn more about your body. In addition, muscle burns fat more effectively than fat burns fat. So, as you work out off cycle and build more lbm, you will be naturally increasing your body's ability to burn fat.
It sounds like you really are just starting to workout, and there's alot of information out there that you could use, without drugs. If you can afford it, try to find a personal trainer. I think you would be able to benefit greatly from one.
I had a way higher BF% 5 years ago.
I got down to about 12% B4 I ever used anything.
Try a ECA or NYC and cardio, lots water and food including bars and shakes.
I also work 50+ hrs a week, go to school 2 nights where I don't get home to past 11:00 pm.
I still have time to train 3 mornings cardio and 4 eves w/ weights.
I also still have time to cook and have a normal life - I just miss a lot of tv shows now
Try cooking a turkey breast - cost like $7 and takes no time to prepare - juat a few hrs in the oven and you will have food for lunch for most the week. Also make a huge salad in bulk to go with it on Sunday and you can have lunch for most of the week done.
I also eat a lot of Boston Market. Get chicken andthe mixed veggies - stay away from the cornbread and other sides (ass load of cals and fat).
I got down to about 12% B4 I ever used anything.
Try a ECA or NYC and cardio, lots water and food including bars and shakes.
I also work 50+ hrs a week, go to school 2 nights where I don't get home to past 11:00 pm.
I still have time to train 3 mornings cardio and 4 eves w/ weights.
I also still have time to cook and have a normal life - I just miss a lot of tv shows now
Try cooking a turkey breast - cost like $7 and takes no time to prepare - juat a few hrs in the oven and you will have food for lunch for most the week. Also make a huge salad in bulk to go with it on Sunday and you can have lunch for most of the week done.
I also eat a lot of Boston Market. Get chicken andthe mixed veggies - stay away from the cornbread and other sides (ass load of cals and fat).
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