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20 Year old model Ruslana Korshunova jumps to death

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NEW YORK (AP) - A European Vogue cover model fell to her death from her Manhattan apartment building Saturday in an apparent suicide, published reports said.

Ruslana Korshunova, 20, died around 2:30 p.m. in a fall from a building on Water Street, in Manhattan's Financial District, The New York Post, the Daily News and Newsday reported. The newspapers cited unnamed officials and police.

Police said the fall was under investigation. Korushnova's New York agency and a spokeswoman for medical examiners did not immediately return telephone messages.

Originally from the former Soviet republic of Kazakhstan, the almond-eyed, flowing-haired Korshunova appeared in advertisements and on runways for such designers as Marc Jacobs, Nina Ricci and DKNY. British Vogue hailed her as "a face to be excited about" in 2005.

Her break came when modeling booker Debbie Jones noticed her while perusing an in-flight magazine article about Korushnova's hometown of Almaty, according to the Vogue report.

"She looked like something out of a fairytale!" Jones told the magazine. "We had to find her and we searched high and low until we did!"

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080629/D91JMODG0.html
 
man , sometimes life can really bite.
I've looked out over a balconey in a dazed glare and thought about what it would be like to jump.
Life has ups and downs, I wish she could have stuck in their things always get better
 
yeah i'm sure her life sucked SOOOO bad she just had to jump... What a selfish bish.
 
SaladFork said:
yeah i'm sure her life sucked SOOOO bad she just had to jump... What a selfish bish.
You have no idea bro,
many people seem to have a perfect life and inside things are not perfect
We have no idea what happened in her past or what was going on in her life.
many people hide drug abuses, past childhood exp such as being molested,or have self image issues.
For all we know she might have had lots of inner battles going on and just gave in
 
SaladFork said:
yeah i'm sure her life sucked SOOOO bad she just had to jump... What a selfish bish.


I think it's selfish to assume that you know how and what someone's life is like and pass your assumptions about it as some kind of absolute reality.
 
chazk said:
You have no idea bro,
many people seem to have a perfect life and inside things are not perfect
We have no idea what happened in her past or what was going on in her life.
many people hide drug abuses, past childhood exp such as being molested,or have self image issues.
For all we know she might have had lots of inner battles going on and just gave in


Yup for sure, but the other thousands of people who are dealing with the same stuff who are WAY less fortunate but seem to manage. I have been at rock bottom a few times with drugs, relationships and depression but never thought about taking my life. It's just selfish and hurts the ones who love you most. Sad some people can not see this. And two of my close friends have killed themselves one a girl and one a guy all in the same year.
 
SaladFork said:
Yup for sure, but the other thousands of people who are dealing with the same stuff who are WAY less fortunate but seem to manage. I have been at rock bottom a few times with drugs, relationships and depression but never thought about taking my life. It's just selfish and hurts the ones who love you most. Sad some people can not see this. And two of my close friends have killed themselves one a girl and one a guy all in the same year.
be glad you managed to get better , this girl did not.
should be a valuable lesson to you salad, to see someone that you think had it all , give it all away to end her pain.

We live life everyday go to work, come home, go out, see our friends and familiy , then one day we hear of a close friend that hung himself or shot himself and we miss that person.We feel hurt that they left us , how could they do that to us ? Yet the whole time we thought they were fine.
Should teach as humans that we should ask our friends if they are ok , a real talk a serious talk .Many people just want someone to talk to so bad to let it all out , someone that will listen with out judgment or smartass remarks
 
So where's the inches of news column & faux e-grief when a mentally or physically broken war veteran that couldn't get the proper help ends their life.
 
chazk said:
We feel hurt that they left us , how could they do that to us ? Yet the whole time we thought they were fine.
Should teach as humans that we should ask our friends if they are ok , a real talk a serious talk .Many people just want someone to talk to so bad to let it all out , someone that will listen with out judgment or smartass remarks
This drives me when someone makes it something about them and their feelings - how could they do this me/us? It's so selfish - BLAH BLAH

What kind of friend or family member are you that you can't see behind the mask? How can you have no idea that another person is in pain?

This girl gave clues as to her emotional state and yet no one read, heard or understood to successfully reach out to her. Her killing herself was an act of desperation not selfishness, if anything it was those around her that failed her.
 
StoĂźtruppe said:
So where's the inches of news column & faux e-grief when a mentally or physically broken war veteran that couldn't get the proper help ends their life.
exactly ,

a war vet kills himself becuase he is depressed, a super model kills herself becuase she was prob depressed.
yet the tv plays the story of the famous person that was beautiful.
people are so in shock that even beautiful people can feel unwanted, isolated and betrayed to the point of ending it all.
we are only human , everyone of us
 
velvett said:
This drives me when someone makes it something about them and their feelings - how could they do this me/us? It's so selfish - BLAH BLAH

What kind of friend or family member are you that you can't see behind the mask? How can you have no idea that another person is in pain?

This girl gave clues as to her emotional state and yet no one read, heard or understood to successfully reach out to her. Her killing herself was an act of desperation not selfishness, if anything it was those around her that failed her.

exactly
 
StoĂźtruppe said:
So where's the inches of news column & faux e-grief when a mentally or physically broken war veteran that couldn't get the proper help ends their life.


Media would never run it, the reality would be too much for the Christian Bush lovers to handle.

I agree with what you're saying though - it's tragic that Vets are simply dumped like unwanted trash when they return to US soil.
 
some medications can cause crazy thoughts to come into your head.

its a dark place, a pit of despair

you never know what goes on in other people's heads
 
StoĂźtruppe said:
So where's the inches of news column & faux e-grief when a mentally or physically broken war veteran that couldn't get the proper help ends their life.

+1 (these guys truly do have their cross-to-bear)

i agree on the selfish comment
 
i think it was voltaire who said that the tragedy of a woman's death is directly proportional to how fucking hot she is, mostly in the face region.

voltaire was an insensitive fucking asshole.

i certainly agree that you can't simply dismiss her suicide because she had a "great life" on the surface. the world is too fucked and truth remains too elusive for that kind of thinking.

jnevcakes is getting darker and darker by the week, and i don't mean his tan.
 
man, in that clip at the end it showed her face with blood coming out of her mouth. Did they really need to get that shot and put it on TV?
 
heatherrae said:
man, in that clip at the end it showed her face with blood coming out of her mouth. Did they really need to get that shot and put it on TV?


Oh shit. Now I'm definitely going to read it.

brb...
 
jnevin said:
Oh shit. Now I'm definitely going to read it.

brb...
read it? It's a newsclip...lol.

It's at the end. You can see the side of her face with blood coming out of her mouth.
 
heatherrae said:
man, in that clip at the end it showed her face with blood coming out of her mouth. Did they really need to get that shot and put it on TV?

I never saw the video... :worried:
 
heatherrae said:
read it? It's a newsclip...lol.

It's at the end. You can see the side of her face with blood coming out of her mouth.


It wasn't even bad. I'm surprised the last thing to go through her mind wasn't hes asshole from 9 stories up. I'd go face first to make sure it did the job.
 
heatherrae said:
read it? It's a newsclip...lol.

It's at the end. You can see the side of her face with blood coming out of her mouth.

Wow I just noticed that. I cannot believe they even show the body like that on tv. How terrible for the family to have to see that. :(
 
My perception of suicide is not shared by many, but since I have no fear of death nor do I think death is bad, I think everyone has the choice whether they want to live or not.
Some people fight for life, some for "death". It's not sad, it's much sadder to live on this planet in terrible pain.
Why do humans celebrate a birth and not a death? It's part of the circle of life.
I do not think it's corwardly to take your "life", it takes a lot of strength to face the unknown of death, more so than facing the unknown of life

just my opinion
 
StoĂźtruppe said:
So where's the inches of news column & faux e-grief when a mentally or physically broken war veteran that couldn't get the proper help ends their life.

Was he famous before he offed himself?

This is a story only because she was already known.

Self-defenestration is probably about as good a suicide method there is. As long as you're high enough. There's no turning back, and little chance of surviving as a vegetable.
 
blueta2 said:
My perception of suicide is not shared by many, but since I have no fear of death nor do I think death is bad, I think everyone has the choice whether they want to live or not.
Some people fight for life, some for "death". It's not sad, it's much sadder to live on this planet in terrible pain.
Why do humans celebrate a birth and not a death? It's part of the circle of life.
I do not think it's corwardly to take your "life", it takes a lot of strength to face the unknown of death, more so than facing the unknown of life

just my opinion

Yes!
 
velvett said:
Her break came when modeling booker Debbie Jones noticed her while perusing an in-flight magazine article about Korushnova's hometown of Almaty, according to the Vogue report.

"She looked like something out of a fairytale!" Jones told the magazine. "We had to find her and we searched high and low until we did!"

Don't suppose being snatched away from her home and real life might have contributed to her mental state???
 
Sighhhh at the lack of compassion shown by some in this thread.

Salad fork, I'm going to assume that a lot of what your saying on this thread comes from latent anger over the friends you've lost. That's understandable. But you really can't make assumptions about what she was going through, and how it compares to other people.
 
gotmilk said:
Maybe we can sacrifice Bran's head to the Imageshack gods.

Well, since you apparently can't be bothered to go back and fix it, I've taken the initiative and re-hosted it on a site that isn't blocked:

2wox9p5.jpg
 
blueta2 said:
My perception of suicide is not shared by many, but since I have no fear of death nor do I think death is bad, I think everyone has the choice whether they want to live or not.
Some people fight for life, some for "death". It's not sad, it's much sadder to live on this planet in terrible pain.
Why do humans celebrate a birth and not a death? It's part of the circle of life.
I do not think it's corwardly to take your "life", it takes a lot of strength to face the unknown of death, more so than facing the unknown of life

just my opinion


kewl, when you die, we will throw a big bash
 
velvett said:
I think it's selfish to assume that you know how and what someone's life is like and pass your assumptions about it as some kind of absolute reality.

Exactly. I always have to laugh when someone else thinks they know another person. People can be married and live with each other for most of their lives and...they still won't know that other person as much as they know themselves.
 
fistfullofsteel said:
kewl, when you die, we will throw a big bash
A "Celebration of Life" is exactly what we call our funerals. There has never been dancing or anything. No kegger or open bar but it IS a celebration in every sense of the word. But, yeah, there's laughing and crying.
 
nefertiti said:
Sighhhh at the lack of compassion shown by some in this thread.

Salad fork, I'm going to assume that a lot of what your saying on this thread comes from latent anger over the friends you've lost. That's understandable. But you really can't make assumptions about what she was going through, and how it compares to other people.


Well, you can't do anything after she's dead..
 
blueta2 said:
My perception of suicide is not shared by many, but since I have no fear of death nor do I think death is bad, I think everyone has the choice whether they want to live or not.
Some people fight for life, some for "death". It's not sad, it's much sadder to live on this planet in terrible pain.
Why do humans celebrate a birth and not a death? It's part of the circle of life.
I do not think it's corwardly to take your "life", it takes a lot of strength to face the unknown of death, more so than facing the unknown of life

just my opinion


cant say i have ever disagreed with any statement more than the one in bold. ending everything is easy. it ends. living through pain, suffering, and the unknown is the hard part.

i wont say your point of view is right or wrong. everyone has their own truth and that is fair. but dont confuse quitting and leaving as the hard part. nothing could be easier.
 
velvett said:
I think it's selfish to assume that you know how and what someone's life is like and pass your assumptions about it as some kind of absolute reality.

+1,000
 
jackangel said:
i think it was voltaire who said that the tragedy of a woman's death is directly proportional to how fucking hot she is, mostly in the face region.

voltaire was an insensitive fucking asshole.
greek tragedies are the same. somehow human misfortune is more significant when it happens to a royal. when i see stuff like this, it reminds me of how shit human beings are
 
man.. beauty- wealth- fame- none of it is good for anything if you're not at peace inside yourself. i'm really sad for this girl
 
timtim said:
cant say i have ever disagreed with any statement more than the one in bold. ending everything is easy. it ends. living through pain, suffering, and the unknown is the hard part.

i wont say your point of view is right or wrong. everyone has their own truth and that is fair. but dont confuse quitting and leaving as the hard part. nothing could be easier.

why is death quitting?
Can living an unhappy unfullfilled life a form of quitting also?

Living is tough, very, I know, believe me, but deciding to end is a hard way to go.

If someone has ALS and lived until the end, well then good, but why suffer?
What is the pride in suffering? Why hold on? What's so scary about death that we fear holding on so tight?
 
blueta2 said:
why is death quitting?
Can living an unhappy unfullfilled life a form of quitting also?

Living is tough, very, I know, believe me, but deciding to end is a hard way to go.

If someone has ALS and lived until the end, well then good, but why suffer?
What is the pride in suffering? Why hold on? What's so scary about death that we fear holding on so tight?


i wont get into the religious aspect because peoples beliefs vary and im not a pusher of my own. life is precious to me. id want every second. suicide is quitting regardless of the situation. i wouldnt judge someone who committed it because life is hard for many people and they have their reasons. its not about pride or fear. its about the value of existence, regardless of the strings attached. those you leave behind carry your luggage forever. im not down for leaving that on anyone.

my beliefs also dictate a fate worse than death with suicide. i wouldnt sacrifice eternity for today.
 
I agree that suicide is brutal for the loved ones. No doubt there.
Since I'm not religious and hold no value to our "human" forms and believe life is fluid and not just about skin/bones, I feel we do go on.
Life is never ending to me.
 
SaladFork said:
yeah i'm sure her life sucked SOOOO bad she just had to jump... What a selfish bish.

Word.

Living in Africa sucks. Living with cancer sucks. Living with both your parents dying in a car crash sucks. Living in a warzone sucks. You don't see those people offing themselves?

It's sad when someone dies. Always. But they're not "sorry hapless victims". In fact, out of their own selfish desire to end pain - they've now moved it onto their families forever. I guess they didn't give a flying fuck how their families would feel. As long as their pain is over. Whatever.

And suicide is the #1 argument for banning guns in America. The stats always hurts NRA's causes (90% of gunshot suicide victims die compared to other methods).

r
 
Razorguns said:
Word.

Living in Africa sucks. Living with cancer sucks. Living with both your parents dying in a car crash sucks. Living in a warzone sucks. You don't see those people offing themselves?

It's sad when someone dies. Always. But they're not "sorry hapless victims". In fact, out of their own selfish desire to end pain - they've now moved it onto their families forever. I guess they didn't give a flying fuck how their families would feel. As long as their pain is over. Whatever.

And suicide is the #1 argument for banning guns in America. The stats always hurts NRA's causes (90% of gunshot suicide victims die compared to other methods).

r


Living in Africa sucks? Some places in Africa are amazing. Not all are starving there.
And some people with Cancer, who are parentless or who live in a warzone are content with their lives so their pain doesn't drive them to end it.
You cannot compare pain from one person to the next because everyone has a different threshold and a different way they experience pain.

And JUST MAYBE someone is not in pain who ends their life. It's not always so cut and dry
 
blueta2 said:
Living in Africa sucks? Some places in Africa are amazing. Not all are starving there.
And some people with Cancer, who are parentless or who live in a warzone are content with their lives so their pain doesn't drive them to end it.
You cannot compare pain from one person to the next because everyone has a different threshold and a different way they experience pain.

And JUST MAYBE someone is not in pain who ends their life. It's not always so cut and dry

It is. Unless they are suffering a slow miserable death there is NO EXCUSE for suicide. And comments like yours is the old "oh you poor thing we're here for you" crap that rarely if ever works in the long run.

Self-Empowerment is how you handle depression - not babying.

r
 
people are shocked but the modeling industry is fucked up.

they hold you to ridiculous standards and the stress to stay thin and look/be a certain way is intense. its very stressful and fake. these girls are recruited very young. to deal with that at 17, 18,19, 20 etc is not easy. the traveling and spending 10 hours doing a shoot isn't even fun. its hectic

ive dated and been close to girls that have been fairly deep in that industry and they all left for the same reasons. They said the expectations were ridiculous and once people perceive you that way as it's all you can think about (your looks). believe it or not these girls suffer from major self esteem issues

yet everyone wants to be a "model" :rolleyes:
of course it's usually the ones that don't even look like legit models
 
I can't imagine being valued for my looks alone and/or because people want to use me...

Nevermind, scratch that. I do know how it feels.

It SUCKS ASS...

'Course it wasn't always that way because I spent the first 3/4 of my life being ugly and poor. So imagine the mindfuck when *all of the sudden* everybody *loved me*.... then came the shocking realization that NONE of those people gave a shit. Was it me or was it them? Lucky for me I was old enough to figure it out before it led me down the path of total self-destruction.

She was young. None of us knows how she was raised, what she endured or anything past the fact that she was a model that was discovered one day and "rescued from obscurity".

It would be equally sad if she was fat and ugly and a loving brilliant obscure human being HOWEVER the fact that our society would mourn the death of a beautiful (maybe vacuuous and who knows, maybe she was not even a nice person?) young woman without even noticing the death of all the plain, ugly women... now THAT is sad.

Meh...

Darwinism.


NEXT!
 
jnevin said:
lol @ blueta saying suicide is an honorable way to go. Yeah. Takes real balls to quit.
the kamazaki fighters during ww2 , I would say had real balls, to aboard a plane knowing they were going to die . Knowing it was the end mission they still had the courage and willpower to not back out but carry on the mission
 
jnevin said:
lol @ blueta saying suicide is an honorable way to go. Yeah. Takes real balls to quit.


What if you were terminal and in pain every day and before you withered away into someone that you and your family could no longer recognize and became just a shell of who you were would it still not be ok to decide when it was time to leave your life with whatever happiness, pride and dignity you had left?

Of should you live on until you've gone from little quality of life to no quality of life, until you can't recognize day from night, nurses from family and the skin starts to fall off your bones to save your family from the grief of your death?
 
chazk said:
the kamazaki fighters during ww2 , I would say had real balls, to aboard a plane knowing they were going to die . Knowing it was the end mission they still had the courage and willpower to not back out but carry on the mission


like suicide bombers.
 
chazk said:
the kamazaki fighters during ww2 , I would say had real balls, to aboard a plane knowing they were going to die . Knowing it was the end mission they still had the courage and willpower to not back out but carry on the mission


Old school taliban?
 
velvett said:
What if you were terminal and in pain every day and before you withered away into someone that you and your family could no longer recognize and became just a shell of who you were would it still not be ok to decide when it was time to leave your life with whatever happiness, pride and dignity you had left?

Of should you live on until you've gone from little quality of life to no quality of life, until you can't recognize day from night, nurses from family and the skin starts to fall off your bones to save your family from the grief of your death?


That's a little different than jumping into a street because shit got a little thick for you.
 
jnevin said:
That's a little different than jumping into a street because shit got a little thick for you.


Of course it is but in your quote you refered to Blueta's statement not the story.

:)
 
velvett said:
Of course it is but in your quote you refered to Blueta's statement not the story.

:)


True, but she pretty much made it sound like any reason is just fine if you feel like you're at your wit's end.
 
heatherrae said:
It wouldn't have been sad if she were fat and plain?


lol

Well, it's sadder for us, because now there's one less beautiful woman to look at.
 
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