20 Week test/dbol/proviron cycle.. thoughts?

[jbw5555]

I had a previous post last year titled "
3rd Cycle after 6 years off, what's changed? Advice? "

do a quick search and you'll get my stats, and cycle history from there (sorry EF won't let me post a link to that thread). short story: 43 yrs old, 205lbs, 3 past cycles, 15+ years of lifting history.

I successfully ran that last 12 week test/dbol/proviron cycle last year, ended the cycle at about 215lbs...attached is a progress pic (I was actually about 210 in the pic).. PCT worked well recovered nicely. I'm currently fluctuating between 205-210.

I like to expand that past 12 week cycle to 20 weeks. simply put I want to plan and start this cycle by march and run it through the early summer months, just so I look good for the summer.

This is what I would like to do:
wk 1-4 dbol @ 30mg/day
wk 5-8 dbol @ 40mg/day
wk 9-10 dbol @50mg/day
wk 1-20 test e @ 500/wk
wk 11-20 proviron @ 50mg/day
wk 5-24 HCgenerate/n2guard
wk 1-24 arimidex at .25 EOD (or as needed)
wk 20-24 clomid @ 25mg/day
wk 20- start unleashed/post cycle combo move to bridge
wk 20 - Forma Stanzol

I'll also be running liver support, creatine and joint support supplements through out the cycle

my questions
1) What are the biggest concern I should have expanding this previous 12 week cycle to 20 weeks?

2) assuming the common answer to #1 question is HPTA recovery... how much harder will it be to recover from the 20 week cycle than from the same 12 week cycle?

3) again, assuming hpta recovery will be the #1 answer, how can I adjust PCT according to ease my recovery? I'm running HCGenerate through out the cycle with the hopes this will help in recovery.

as always bros, thanks for the advice and support.

 

[anonymity]

Holy shit that is a long time to run dbol for! Be careful bro could get some serious liver issues with a 17aa for that time period.

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[jbw5555]

Holy shit that is a long time to run dbol for! Be careful bro could get some serious liver issues with a 17aa for that time period.

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Well, the dbol is only for 10 weeks, not 20... Do you think 10 weeks is way too long?

 

[dylangemelli]

10 weeks of dbol is way too fucking long man... you can't be serious about that? the water retention, estrogen conversion and internal damage with that will be fucked up... why would you want to run a 20 week cycle of test unless eq or primo was involved... it makes no sense to me...

 

[Liquid 2009]

Yeah, just do the DBOL for 4-5 weeks 50mgs all the way through

 

[joeblow12345]

First off I'm not against a long cycle, and I actually favor this approach myself as I feel that it gives you more time to build quality gains. I do agree with everyone else that 10 weeks of dbol is not smart and will run amuck on your liver. 6 weeks is the most I'd run dbol period. And I'd stack the proviron along side it instead of running it separately. I would also stack another injectable along side the test. Like Dylan said eq or primo will go nicely. Eq is a lot cheaper so I'd go that route. I'd also throw a oral on the end to harden up before pct. var or Tbol is great, but Tbol is easier on the wallet. So here is what I'd do.

1-20 test 600 mg week
1-20 eq 600 mg week
1-6 dbol 40 mg day
1-8 proviron 50-75 mg day
1-6 n2guard
6-18hcgenerate
18-22 hcg 2500 ius week
16-22 Tbol 60 mg day
16-22 n2guard

Pct 22-28
clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed
Forma
Daa

28-34 bridge by Ntbm

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[jbw5555]

Decided to modify this and go 16 weeks on this cycle. Currently through 6 weeks of test e at 500/wk, dbol started at 35mg/day upping it slightly every week and finished up this last week at 60mg/day. I'll keep the dbol at a 6 week run and end it here. I took joes advice above and am running proviron along side the dbol, gotta say that was some great advice, never felt better running the dbol than i do this time around.

Weighed in at the beginning of the cycle at 204, and thru the end of 6 weeks weighed in today at 220, putting me up 16 lbs so far.

I think the proviron really helped keep the water weight and bloat down, I can still see the abs even being up 16 pounds. I was never able to get much higher than 40mgs/day before without the sides getting unbearable, I'm thinking this was the proviron that helped.

Really looking forward to this next period when the test kicks into high gear. Strength is through the roof right now. I decided to end the cycle with 6 weeks of var at 80mg/day.