20 Week D-Bol Cycle

[NegroPops]

This would not be for me.. but what do you guys think about a set up like this?

1-20 Test E 125 mg/week
1-20 Proviron 50 mg/day

1-4 D-Bol 20 mg/day
1-4 Aromasin 12.5 mg/eod

9-12 D-Bol 30 mg/day
9-12 Aromasin 12.5 mg/eod

17-20 D-Bol 40 mg/day
17-20 Aromasin 12.5 mg/eod

Obviously, cycle and liver support through out.

 

[maccy]

Why so long?

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[Arabian]

Hey N, I have never been real big on Dbol for anything other than a quick 4 week kickstart due to the fact that you lose all of your gains when you quit simple to it all being water gains. Obviously your goal is to bulk so I would try and incorporate NPP and give it a try if you have not already. Anyway, which ever way you go, I wish you success.

 

[NegroPops]

This proposed cycle isn't for me at all. Just an idea me and a buddy were taking about.

Because of the toxicity, it is only recommended to run d-bol or any other oral for few weeks at a time. Then after you run it.. the smart thing to do would be to do a PCT and recover. With this idea.. you stay on a trt dose of test the entire time so you don't have to worry about PCT and recovering until the end. Then you can run a few short "blasts" through the duration to get more benefit from the orals in a shorter period of time without having to worry a bout coming off and recovering.. and without killing your liver.

I used d-bol just as an example. I think the same principle could be used for any oral.. T-Bol, Winstrol.. ect.

 

[El Hefe]

This proposed cycle isn't for me at all. Just an idea me and a buddy were taking about.

Because of the toxicity, it is only recommended to run d-bol or any other oral for few weeks at a time. Then after you run it.. the smart thing to do would be to do a PCT and recover. With this idea.. you stay on a trt dose of test the entire time so you don't have to worry about PCT and recovering until the end. Then you can run a few short "blasts" through the duration to get more benefit from the orals in a shorter period of time without having to worry a bout coming off and recovering.. and without killing your liver.

I used d-bol just as an example. I think the same principle could be used for any oral.. T-Bol, Winstrol.. ect.

Interesting thought. It could probably work, although there might be better options.

Like Nelson, I believe Dbol is king. I believe it can be ran a number of different ways. IME, it can also be ran with liver support for 6-8 weeks. Note: not saying 8 weeks works for everyone. Also not saying to blast a full 50 mg for 8 weeks.

If we're talking longer cycles, I might try:

8 week blast (with dbol and test)
12 week cruise (with test)
8 week blast (with dbol an test)

This 28 week idea would also fit with the 8 week myostatin issue.

I might also increase the test.

IMO, this might work better than going up and down every 4 weeks. For me, at 4 weeks, I'm just starting to kick ass. Then, like a lot of info and exp suggests, it levels off after 8.

 

[C0LUMB0]

I dont like it bro... i know vets that run it for long periods @ 10mg ED and sometimes 20mg.

If i had to do it i would blast and cruise like el hefe said on for 8 and off for 8 then back on and then PCt , liver supps throughout ... water weight would be up and down like a yoyo. BP could be an issue too.

8 weeks of injects is a much better way to go..up the test and add and anabolic like npp.

 

[NegroPops]

this would just be a way to pack in a bunch of short oral cycles into a small window frame. If you go the route with full PCT, and time on and off.. then it would take about a year to run 3 short oral cycles. This way, you don't have to worry about recovery and the time off time on.. because.. well, you're still on. Then the brief gaps should allow your liver and body to recover a bit. I mean.. if people run a 10 week cycle with an oral kicker and finisher.. what is the difference?

Our first thought was with T-Bol and running each blast for 6 weeks, but thought it would be a good idea to keep the cycle length reasonable. Even though about running 3 different orals. Say.. start with d-bol, then go to t-bol.. then winny. Just some thoughts.

 

[El Hefe]

I agree. You know, people value time off, but running pct and going off 3 times a year is also a stressful, roller coaster ride.

So I see where your coming from. I've also run 4 weeks of dbol followed by Tbol as you mentioned.

My thought with the 28 weeks (8 blast, 10-12 cruise, 8 blast) would provide serious gains followed by a very thorough pct and a significant off period. But the thought would be the possible benefit of 1 serious recovery per year rather than 3 half ass recoveries.

 

[NegroPops]

exactly my thinking.. you may spend more time on, but your not constantly going through the ups and downs. At first I was skeptical about the whole mystatin cycling idea.. but now that I think about it, I think it is actually better.

 

[digit0x]

Transdermal for 10 weeks. Haven't tried trans dbol yet, but it sounds like a fun idea.

 

[zedhed]

Interesting thought. It could probably work, although there might be better options.

Like Nelson, I believe Dbol is king. I believe it can be ran a number of different ways. IME, it can also be ran with liver support for 6-8 weeks. Note: not saying 8 weeks works for everyone. Also not saying to blast a full 50 mg for 8 weeks.

If we're talking longer cycles, I might try:

8 week blast (with dbol and test)
12 week cruise (with test)
8 week blast (with dbol an test)

This 28 week idea would also fit with the 8 week myostatin issue.

I might also increase the test.

IMO, this might work better than going up and down every 4 weeks. For me, at 4 weeks, I'm just starting to kick ass. Then, like a lot of info and exp suggests, it levels off after 8.

Thsi right here is the way to go. This is a very well thought out blast and cruise that will pack slabs of muscle on you. As long as you keep your diet clean and big you will not loose that much. The peeps that get all water from Dbol dont know how to use eat and drink properly.
What El Hefe has laid out here is a classic PL type blast and cruise.

 

[Lou Super Man 123]

you lose all of your gains when you quit simple to it all being water gains

Dianabol gives you 100% water gains and 0% muscle gains?

Do you have proves on that? Because history says the opposite.

Radar has proven on his own body that, that statement is broscience and as much the result of a poor way of using the compound and thank god he did that because if not, this board would make newbies to believe that Salt is a steroid too.

Dianabol is an androgenic/anabolic steroid and as such, it HAS to give muscle gains.

Yeah, you sure can become very bloated but your comment just defies science and biology.

I would love a thread where you and all the guys that treat Dianabol as a Salt argue against Radar.

I believe that is time to give newbies the right advice about Dianabol.

Just saying, not to be rude in any way and if I sounded like that I apologize in before hand

 

[El Hefe]

Whether I look to bulk or lean-bulk, it's hard for me to run a cycle without dbol because it WORKS.

IMO, dbol is one of the strongest, most effective AAS. How many other AAS could produce similar gains with only 300-350 mg per week. Tren might be the only other one.

 

[RickRock13]

Interesting thought. It could probably work, although there might be better options.

Like Nelson, I believe Dbol is king. I believe it can be ran a number of different ways. IME, it can also be ran with liver support for 6-8 weeks. Note: not saying 8 weeks works for everyone. Also not saying to blast a full 50 mg for 8 weeks.

If we're talking longer cycles, I might try:

8 week blast (with dbol and test)
12 week cruise (with test)
8 week blast (with dbol an test)

This 28 week idea would also fit with the 8 week myostatin issue.

I might also increase the test.

IMO, this might work better than going up and down every 4 weeks. For me, at 4 weeks, I'm just starting to kick ass. Then, like a lot of info and exp suggests, it levels off after 8.

I fucking hate Dbol, but if you wanted to do it, this is the only sensible way to run it that's close to what you want to do in my opinion. That short blast/cruise idea in the original post makes absolutely no sense to me