Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below hi ,i have been reading some old posts here from 2002-2004,from vets like nelson and realgains,advocating 2weeks of short esters and dbol ,then 4 weeks of,then 2weeks on 4 off,etc,,.is this cycle still popular,and are the gains worth it,also would you take sustain or nolva for the 4weeks off,cheers.if this cycle is not popular ,what is the most popular4 short cycle ,and pct,and time off recommendations,.thanks ,im loving this site,addictive!!
2 weeks on 4 off,popular cycle???
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short esters are usually ran 6-8 weeks, inj ED or EOD
long esters are usually run 12-14 weeks, inj E5D or E7D
although short esters can be run longer but, most people tend to not like feeling like a constant pin cushion
long esters are usually run 12-14 weeks, inj E5D or E7D
although short esters can be run longer but, most people tend to not like feeling like a constant pin cushion
The 2 on/4 off cycle premise does not work.
If using long esters, the blood levels are nowhere near high enough for any real muscle growth to happen in 2 weeks.
Same deal with short esters.
You might get some results with orals like Anavar and Winny in high doses, but they would be minimal IMO.
If using long esters, the blood levels are nowhere near high enough for any real muscle growth to happen in 2 weeks.
Same deal with short esters.
You might get some results with orals like Anavar and Winny in high doses, but they would be minimal IMO.
Cardinal Slin
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You should read the posts from Ultragainz - that's where the fun was at.
Missin those days!
Missin those days!
I never advocated 2 week cycles or 4 weeks off. Those are misrepresented rip-offs of my short cycle theory which I first wrote about in 1997.
ok fair nuff,.thats the problem with sourcing info on the net,so many contradicting theories on everything,from aas cycles to routines to supplements,.newbies are always told to research a lot before asking popular questions,the problem is when you research it confuses you even more ,because of all the differing opinions,.
Cardinal Slin
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Lol
Barch
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skaman, you can check out Bill Roberts' opinions on these cycles at Mesomorphosis.com or another site that has a lot of info on short cycles is anabolicextreme.com. Do lots of research, decide for yourself. However, I would advise you to pay special attention to the vets and well respected members of the respective boards (people like Nelson). Lots of people will give you advice that is just flat out wrong, or misinformed at best. Good luck.
2 weeks? no
4 weeks? yes
4 weeks on, 4 weeks off is a doable method IMO. If you are just using orals. Just orals for a long time 4on 4off isn't ideal, but sometimes that's what people are stuck to do for various reasons and it works great for them.
Though, I personally would prefer 8 weeks on, 10 weeks off for short esters, but I do 10 weeks on 12 weeks off for longer esters.
My last, I actually went 6 weeks on, 6 months off.
4 weeks? yes
4 weeks on, 4 weeks off is a doable method IMO. If you are just using orals. Just orals for a long time 4on 4off isn't ideal, but sometimes that's what people are stuck to do for various reasons and it works great for them.
Though, I personally would prefer 8 weeks on, 10 weeks off for short esters, but I do 10 weeks on 12 weeks off for longer esters.
My last, I actually went 6 weeks on, 6 months off.
Barch
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6 weeks on, 6 months off? Wow, now that's safe cycling!
wanted to go natty for a while. made decent progress too. my next cycle is gonna be killer. nothing fancy, but I am gonna try anadrol this run.
