2 fina/tren questions...

[swol]

ok guys,
i never used tren yet, but i want to start it in jan.
i was thinking of taking 80mgs ed for 6 weeks, with 250mgs of sus250.
what do you think of that?
and my other question is...
how long after the 6 weeks can i go again on it for another 6 weeks?
swol

stats
25 years old 6.2 feet 245lbs 17%bf. gyno prone.
about 3-4 good cycles under belt.

 

[JG1]

I'd use a shorter acting test like propienate along with the fina. That way you be able to stop the test when you stop the fina and start on clomid about 4 days later. If you use sust, your going to have to wait for 3 weeks after your last shot to start clomid.

Oh, and since the cycle will only be for 6 weeks, sust won't be much good anyway. It takes a good 3-4 weeks before it really starts kicking in...where as prope will kick in very quickly.

 

[Willyumyum]

if you ran the tren for 6 weeks and the sust for 8-10, then that cycle would be nice.

YUM

 

[CJsnipe]

time on should equal time off for cycle's. using prop for the added test is also a good idea as stated above, also being gyno prone fina can cause this very easily, not by converting to estrogen but it converts to progesterone which in turn raises
IGF-1 levels assoatied with growth of breast tissue {gyno}. to combat these raised progesterone levels most BB's take winny along with the fina to stop these effects. hope this helps...

 

[MasterMind]

what?

time on should equal time off for cycle's. using prop for the added test is also a good idea as stated above, also being gyno prone fina can cause this very easily, not by converting to estrogen but it converts to progesterone which in turn raises
IGF-1 levels assoatied with growth of breast tissue {gyno}. to combat these raised progesterone levels most BB's take winny along with the fina to stop these effects. hope this helps...

you got it wrong bro..fina wont cause gyno easily..you can combat the gyno using nolvadex..it is made to suppress IGF-1 levels, and fina raises it..dont you think the suppressed IGF-1 levels will inhibit any gyno? or did you just do a lot of copying and pasting?

 

[swol]

so it seems like i should stay away from sus and take prop instead and go 6 weeks on both.
how much prop a week?
and i have liquidex, and nolva,
which should i use?
thanks
swol

 

[JD Slim]

if you already have the sus then use it , try this

week 1-3 sus 250/w , liquidex .25mg/ed
week 4-10 sus 250/w , liquidex .25mg/ed , fina 80mg/ed

this will give your test a little while to start kicking in before you fina does so you get the benifit of both at the same time.

liquidex at .25mg/ed should be enough to keep any gyno sides away , but personaly I'd get more fina and run it for 3-4 weeks past the test , then several days after you last shot start your clomid.
I've been on fina for 10 weeks nowat 75mg/ed and have had no bad sides to speak of !!

 

[swol]

i have both sus and prop.
but i heard running fina more than 8 weeks is not a good idea.
so sus vs. prop.
which is better to use with fina for fat burning and hardening.
swol

 

[CJsnipe]

look here "mastermind" 1. fina will cause gyno if you are prone, 2. it raises progestrone levels that raises IGF-1 levels, 3. noveldex is an estrogen blocker not a progesterone, 4. inturn progestrone will cause gyno, 5. if you still dont belive me "cut, copy, and paste your ass over to www.novadex.com:FRlol:

 

[MasterMind]

look here "mastermind" 1. fina will cause gyno if you are prone, 2. it raises progestrone levels that raises IGF-1 levels, 3. noveldex is an estrogen blocker not a progesterone, 4. inturn progestrone will cause gyno, 5. if you still dont belive me "cut, copy, and paste your ass over to www.novadex.com:FRlol:

nolvadex suppresses IGF-1 levels..to get tits, gyno has to be developed from more than one mechanism (I.E. estrogen, progesterone, elevated IGF-1 levels, etc.)..if you suppress IGF-1 and estrogen, then progesterone wont attach to the estrogen receptor..and you wont get gyno..