1st timers ????'s

[TN_LittleBigMan]

I'm a 47 yr old guy who has never used AS's. At 5' 7", 195 lbs., 35" waist, I've finally summoned up the courage to achieve the body I've always wanted.

Let me say now.... I have worked out regularly for years and feel that I have definately reached genetic potental, and have plateaued for some time in regard to losing body fat and gaining lean muscle mass.

Several guys I know and work out with have recommended the following..... (Yes, this is an all oral cycle at my request as I am not ready to be injecting myself just yet)

1. Dianabol 50 mg/day for 7 weeks
2. Winstrol 50 mg/day for 8 weeks
3. Finaplix as a topical spray applied to my chest once a day for a total of 4 gm/10 weeks.
4. T3 25 mcg tabs taken in pyramid dosage 3 weeks of cycle starting week 8.
5. Clomid 25 mg tabs taken starting week 3 (1 every other day), then 1 tab a day for week 10, then 2 tabs a day for week 11, and finally 1 tab a day for week 12.

What do you guys think of this 1st time stack ?

But my biggest questions is.......
Should I start and continue the Dianabol & Winstrol through their cycles as recommended at the 50 mg/day, or should I start out with lower dosages and work up to a max of 50 mg/day and then back down the doses to finish up the cycle ????

Any help and advice from you experience guys and gals would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Nimrod25]

Slow down buddy, two 17aa orals for 8 weeks, u wanna be shiting into a bag when ur 50?
Cmon man u are 45yrs old quit being a baby and throw some injectables in there. You will be much happier.

Something like:
Week: 1-6 Dbol 35mg ED
Week: 1-8 Test 600mg/wk

That is a first cycle.

 

[M.O.D]

im 39 and the ONLY drugs i would ever consider using are:

GH
PRIMO
TEST (PROP OR ENTH)
WINSTROL DEPOT
ANAVAR (BTG)

no exceptions

 

[JOKER47]

You will need to throw in some liver protectants, too. Milk Thistle or Tyler Liver Detox. Expecially if you plan on doing more than one oral at those dosages.

.02
Joker

 

[earnhardt3jr1]

need to read

If you already have in mind that you are only going to do those as, then in my opinion bro, you need to do lots of reading and studying and do a cycle that you feel is right for you. If its your first cycle, it will be your best. But if it was me, I would do this

week 1-4 do 30mg dbol
week 1-8 I would do 500 mg of enthate or sustanon
week 1-8 I would do 300 mg of deca

You will achieve at least 15 to 20lbs of keepable muscle
But only you know what you want to achieve. So do your homework.

 

[Squats]

You most certainly do not want to do d-bol and winny at the same time. I think you would be asking for some serious trouble. IMO you also do not need to do such high dosages as have been suggested. This is your 1st cycle right?

Try this

d-bol 30mg-40mg ed w 1-4
sust 250mg w 1- 10
deca 300mg w 1-10
winny 50mg eod or ed w 6-10

starting w 13 300mg clomid day 1
100mg ed rest of week 1
50mg ed weeks 14-15

Some might say that these dosages are to low but everyone reacts different to AS. IMO it is better to try and get good gains off of a lower cycle the first time instead of pumping yourself full of high dosages. You should see good gains from the above cycle provided you lift hard, EAT RIGHT, and get plenty of rest. Just my 2 cents.

Squats