1st Cycle

[kamkao]

I am 22 years old and have been lifting hard for about 4 years now. I've used some supplements but nothing hardcore. When I started lifting I was 6' and about 165 pounds. I was scrawny as hell. I've worked my ass off and actually got up to 196 pounds with about 15% bodyfat. I'm back down to 182 and want to bulk up some but stay pretty chisled. Currently I'm at about 11-12% bodyfat. I want to try juice but dont know what a good first cycle would be?

 

[LVTitan]

do you have the willpower to hold off on juice for a few more years ??? after all the accomplishments you've made (i commend you) dont screw yourself up now.
you are still a little young bro, give your body time to mature naturally before you start messing with homeostasis (the hormone balance in your body) you could cause problems down the road by using steroids too early...
yes or no ?
if not then we'll give you some advice on a starter cycle, but be warned it is not advised

 

[shoestring]

Bro at 22 with a good diet and training program you could put on another 20lbs of muscle and stay at 12% or less naturaly. If the gains have slowed it just means you need to change things up. See if you figure out how to do it natty, down the road if you decide to juice you can get jacked!! You could do this in less than two years I bet.. Don't sell yourself short bro.. Good luck.... You will thank me later if you listen to my advice.. But since you prolly won't. Good first cycle is 250mg-500mg test e for 10 weeks. Nolva and clomid for pct.

 

[brandonp005]

10 weeks of Test Eth. @ 500mg/wk

Nolva for PCT would do the trick

do a little more research and studying before you get started though.....good luck

 

[Subzeero]

hmm, experts post up, I am in a similar situation. I have been holding this for 2 years now. I feels like its time as well. 21 years old. This should be interesting.

 

[asianlover]

i started at 22. but, i was about 245lbs at about the same bf as you before i had started. i would do this.

wks 1-10 teat e 500mg/wk
wks 1-4 dbol 30mg/day

full pct with clomid, nolva, and hcg.

 

[asianlover]

this link has everything you need to know about pct.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

 

[rahil]

go with 500mg test+200mg deca +60 mg dinabol
for 10 to 12 weeks
hcg after 6th &12th week and nolva & clomid

 

[shoestring]

go with 500mg test+200mg deca +60 mg dinabol
for 10 to 12 weeks
hcg after 6th &12th week and nolva & clomid

For a first cycle?? come on dude, if he needs all that to grow he is not ready for juice..

60mg dbol for the whole time.. Better get on the waiting list for a new liver now..

 

[shoestring]

go with 500mg test+200mg deca +60 mg dinabol
for 10 to 12 weeks
hcg after 6th &12th week and nolva & clomid

Re: Sustanon cycle alone???

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i had gained 15 pounds in 6 weeks on sustanon . my cycle was
week1,2,5,6 250 mg
week3,4 500mg
rahil


IF you gained 15 lbs on this than he should gain 50 or so.. lol

 

[brandonp005]

go with 500mg test+200mg deca +60 mg dinabol
for 10 to 12 weeks
hcg after 6th &12th week and nolva & clomid

way too much for a first cycle...no need for all that dbol

 

[shoestring]

go with 500mg test+200mg deca +60 mg dinabol
for 10 to 12 weeks
hcg after 6th &12th week and nolva & clomid

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Re: first cycle

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boss as u r firsty try deca 200mg and dinabol 30 mg for 10 weeks . u will gain atleast 20 pounds


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he he he.. Bro make up your mind....

 

[ALIN]

I am 22 years old and have been lifting hard for about 4 years now. I've used some supplements but nothing hardcore. When I started lifting I was 6' and about 165 pounds. I was scrawny as hell. I've worked my ass off and actually got up to 196 pounds with about 15% bodyfat. I'm back down to 182 and want to bulk up some but stay pretty chisled. Currently I'm at about 11-12% bodyfat. I want to try juice but dont know what a good first cycle would be?

Test 500mgwk 1-10wk
Eq 400mgwk 1-10 wk
0.25mg Arimidex daily 1-10wk

PCT of Nolva and Clomid following cycle.

 

[LVTitan]

go with 500mg test+200mg deca +60 mg dinabol
for 10 to 12 weeks
hcg after 6th &12th week and nolva & clomid

this is horrible advice.
first off, a begining cycle should never be more than 20mg/dbol in my humble opinion.
secondly, i dont recommend (or know anyone who does) stacking two compounds for a first cycle.
see how your body reacts to gear before you get crazy with stacks and dosages.

 

[kamkao]

Sorry guys for taking so long to get online, my internet has been having some problems. Thanks for all the advice. I still have a couple of questions though. After talking to a couple buddies of mine who have been juicing for a while, they told me that the mass I would put on with Dbol would most likely not stay after the cycle ended. Is this true? Also, a friend of mine suggested trying Winstrol. Would that be ok for a first cycle? Thanks for all the help. I really dont want to hold of on juice any longer and would like to start my cycle sometime next week.

 

[Apexx]

Sorry guys for taking so long to get online, my internet has been having some problems. Thanks for all the advice. I still have a couple of questions though. After talking to a couple buddies of mine who have been juicing for a while, they told me that the mass I would put on with Dbol would most likely not stay after the cycle ended. Is this true? Also, a friend of mine suggested trying Winstrol. Would that be ok for a first cycle? Thanks for all the help. I really dont want to hold of on juice any longer and would like to start my cycle sometime next week.

dbol gains?
although dbol isn't a great binder to the receptors, you will see muscle growth from it. The problem is that there is also a lot of water retention. So, when you stop the cycle, the water goes away and people think that ALL of their gains went away too. Dbol alone isn't an ideal cycle, but will yeild ok gains.

winstrol?
I wouldn't recommend using wintrol by itself as it tends to dry out your joints to the point of almost not being able to lift. If your in too much pain to lift, then how are you gonna get bigger.

1st cycle?
Stick with test and test alone!! 250mg -500mg/wk for 10-12 weeks followed by proper pct (check out pct forum)
You DO NOT need to add anything else for your first cycle. Many will say to throw in an oral kick start, but it's not needed as you WILL grow like crazy from just the test.
The key to AAS is to learn how you respond to each compound before combining them. If u add two new things at once, you won't know where the gains/sides come from.

 

[1392477]

Test only is an option
Winnie is not a good choice
Oral Turinabol may be an option - like DBol but without the sides or bloat.
Anavar is similar in producing moderate gains without many sides.

Do plenty of reading before starting and learn from others mistakes.

Get all of your gear and PCT in order before starting.
Get your diet spot on before starting any cycle.
Get a blood test to baseline yourself before starting AAS.
Keep a training log for the cycle.

 

[LVTitan]

dbol gains?
although dbol isn't a great binder to the receptors, you will see muscle growth from it. The problem is that there is also a lot of water retention. So, when you stop the cycle, the water goes away and people think that ALL of their gains went away too. Dbol alone isn't an ideal cycle, but will yeild ok gains.

winstrol?
I wouldn't recommend using wintrol by itself as it tends to dry out your joints to the point of almost not being able to lift. If your in too much pain to lift, then how are you gonna get bigger.

1st cycle?
Stick with test and test alone!! 250mg -500mg/wk for 10-12 weeks followed by proper pct (check out pct forum)
You DO NOT need to add anything else for your first cycle. Many will say to throw in an oral kick start, but it's not needed as you WILL grow like crazy from just the test.
The key to AAS is to learn how you respond to each compound before combining them. If u add two new things at once, you won't know where the gains/sides come from.

listen to this man

 

[wayneboard1]

do you have the willpower to hold off on juice for a few more years ??? after all the accomplishments you've made (i commend you) dont screw yourself up now.
you are still a little young bro, give your body time to mature naturally before you start messing with homeostasis (the hormone balance in your body) you could cause problems down the road by using steroids too early...
yes or no ?
if not then we'll give you some advice on a starter cycle, but be warned it is not advised

Excellent advice, but I don't think it is going to be taken. Sorry bro you gave it your best. K to you.

 

[wayneboard1]

dbol gains?
although dbol isn't a great binder to the receptors, you will see muscle growth from it. The problem is that there is also a lot of water retention. So, when you stop the cycle, the water goes away and people think that ALL of their gains went away too. Dbol alone isn't an ideal cycle, but will yeild ok gains.

winstrol?
I wouldn't recommend using wintrol by itself as it tends to dry out your joints to the point of almost not being able to lift. If your in too much pain to lift, then how are you gonna get bigger.

1st cycle?
Stick with test and test alone!! 250mg -500mg/wk for 10-12 weeks followed by proper pct (check out pct forum)
You DO NOT need to add anything else for your first cycle. Many will say to throw in an oral kick start, but it's not needed as you WILL grow like crazy from just the test.
The key to AAS is to learn how you respond to each compound before combining them. If u add two new things at once, you won't know where the gains/sides come from.

if you are going to stil cycle (which I would bet you are) listen to apexx, wise beyond his years he is. The force is strong in this one.