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swordfish151 said:
your right idcbp, should have cleared up my comment...i was referring in the content of "not doing PCT right" which i doubt this guy would know how.


I agree with that. Dbol is the prime newbie destruction tool, though by no fault of its own. Guys love the fact that its not a needle and its gives instant results regardless of shitty diet and training habits. They lose interest and don't do proper pct or even train post cycle, leading to the crash. Then they curse dbol. Glad you clarified bro.
 
Pick up 10cc's of Sust or a single ester test. Run 250mg's of test shot once a week. You will see great results.

I disagree that you need to go up to 500mg for a first. If you already have the D-Bol you could stack that with the test at 20mgs ED split into 2 10mg doses a day. If you don't have it, don't bother with it. I gained 20 keepable lbs from my first at 250 of sust for 8 weeks. I was inexperienced and my diet was poor, and I still gained 20lbs. I did have a good PCT and I kept my gains, 100%

You will grow like a weed for a first if your diet and training are on.
 
black sheep said:
oh, and www.getpinz.com can hook you up with the pins you need.

Pick up 23ga 1.5". Or 23ga 1" if you want to shoot into the quads, which is easier to do if you are inexperienced, as you are.
thanks for the advice. you really beat me up over not wanting to use the needle ha ha. Thanks again
 
He may need to do more than 250mg a week. Some very few people are blessed with being able to gain off 250mg's a week (that's not too far off from just a replacement dose). That is certainly not the NORM. IMO taxman, you should do TWO shots of 250mgs per week spread out evenly to keep your blood levels even. Remember fellas, sust has test prop in it and you can't do test prop once a week, so doing it once a week will give you very little test by day 4 or 5 after the injection. TWICE A WEEK / 250MGS EACH DOSE. You'll thank me later taxman.
 
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Taxman said:
lol, I will see if I can arrange for the needle Bro. You have talked me into it


Whoa, now wait a minute, do you really know what you are doing, sounds to me like you are desperate and really haven't thought the needle through.

I just joined this forum, so I am using it as tool to make my decision - it has terrific information here
 
There's always a place to use the pins. I can't use them at home but i get a nice juicy shot in my ass in the bathroom stall at work. Do whatever it takes to be safe and protect your body and sticking with the orals doesn't have the most longevity. You'll need your liver eventually, just be creative and there is a way
 
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