I'm 6'2 220 pounds... been thinking about taking my first cycle ever... I played college ball and now that I'm done have always been interested in seeing what a cycle would do. I've never been able to get cut. I dont want to get bulky. I want to get leaned out and cut body fat. obviously I'll gain mass but I dont want anything crazy. read a lot and getting a lot of mixed reviews. I see a lot suggetions for just test but I have a friend who's suggesting 400mg test with 400mg tren for 8 weeks. I think thats to much especially for my first cycle? could really use some help!!!!
Jeeez. Ur buddy might have u on a crazy good cycle or fuck u up real good. U should see the countless posts on here of "my buddy said take" deals and now they're trying to get rid of breast tissue, lactation, impotence, zero natural test, jacked joints, etc. Its one of those situations where u never think its gonna happen to u. Take it light to start. Look into SARMs or MAYBE helladrol only. Something mild to feel it out.
What would u say ur body fat % is?
I'm probably around 15%. It all sits at my waste. thats why im researching and trying to figure it out... he did it and had good results. It just seemed a little extensive for a first cycle
you have several options... if you want to inject then you should start with a basic test only cycle and if you want throw an oral in there on the front or back end...
if you just want to take an oral then with the goals you have you could go with helladrol or epistane... you also could go another route and go with anavar or winstrol...
what should the dosages be and week break downs... what weeks should i start adding in the hcg... also its been suggested to throw on anavar on the back end of the cycle, any thoughts?
No No No No No. Low dose of test. Nothing else. you dont need it. Your body is new to it, it will give you great results. Stick with 250mg p/w Test E and you be laughing. Not an expert on PCT so go with previous posts advice.
Nah. He mentioned college ball in his past so probably early twenties. He should confirm tho.
I'd run that test dose a tad higher, maybe 350mg/wk. Remember that u'll not see real changes until approximately week 4.
I don't see a big need running var this time. With test only u'll be able to confirm u have no issues with the sides. Then next cycle add to the test so if something is bothering u or is wrong then it'll be evident that the new compound is the problem.
Your diet is going to determine what happens on-cycle. I'd spend time getting it dialed in for ur goals.
you have several options... if you want to inject then you should start with a basic test only cycle and if you want throw an oral in there on the front or back end...
if you just want to take an oral then with the goals you have you could go with helladrol or epistane... you also could go another route and go with anavar or winstrol...
what would you suggest to throw in as an oral on the back end... was looking at winny but to be honest and realistic I drink and am not trying to have liver problems... is there another one I could take that would give me the same effects but wont be as hard on my liver?
No I'm 24... ok, from everything I gathered so far I'm thinking test of the 10 weeks... adding var in on the last 5 weeks just a little more cut. then the hcg towards the end and pct with formastanazol
Still not sure when to start the hcg (was thinking 8-12, but not sure if its suppose to be done all during cycle) and if my pct is going to be okay cause I feel like thats the most important thing to have ironed out so I can maintain after.
Really trying to get all information in order before doing it so that its done safely and properly for best results!
what would you suggest to throw in as an oral on the back end... was looking at winny but to be honest and realistic I drink and am not trying to have liver problems... is there another one I could take that would give me the same effects but wont be as hard on my liver?
bro if your a drinker then there you should not be running any sort of cycle right now... until you are able to dedicate yourself to it and not put yourself at more risk then you need just train naturally... any oral you take is going to cause stress on your liver... you need to wait until you are ready... i partied for a fucking decade straight bro and i was smart enough to realize that if i wanted to live that way then steroids were not for me at the time... you need to just wait...
bro if your a drinker then there you should not be running any sort of cycle right now... until you are able to dedicate yourself to it and not put yourself at more risk then you need just train naturally... any oral you take is going to cause stress on your liver... you need to wait until you are ready... i partied for a fucking decade straight bro and i was smart enough to realize that if i wanted to live that way then steroids were not for me at the time... you need to just wait...
it's not something that I have to do. I have every intention of being dedicated to it. drinking doesnt help the nutritional side of it as well and I know this. I just didn't want to any issues if on a friday I was to have a few drinks thats why I asked if there were alternatives.
what would you suggest to throw in as an oral on the back end... was looking at winny but to be honest and realistic I drink and am not trying to have liver problems... is there another one I could take that would give me the same effects but wont be as hard on my liver?
Drop the alcohol before getting on anything. Trust me. You will not reach the full potential and get that amazing feeling from the juice. Being on juice is much more fun imo. Also your bp will skyrocket and u will get horrible migranes. Not to mention the damage to the liver. Drop the drinks and get on juice. ITS A BLAST. lol
it's not something that I have to do. I have every intention of being dedicated to it. drinking doesnt help the nutritional side of it as well and I know this. I just didn't want to any issues if on a friday I was to have a few drinks thats why I asked if there were alternatives.
I just read the PCT sticky and apparently thats the way to go. just having a hard time knowing exactly how to take it all properly and at the right times. Also was wondering how long you are suppose to pct for? that says 10 weeks?
Yes PCT is the most important part of a cycle. You need to work even harder than while on cycle. I'M SO GLAD YOU READ THE PCT STICKY! If only more people would do that. I know a decent amount about PCT but I am no pro, so I will leave it to Dylan. Dylan set-up a PCT for this guy please!
Yes PCT is the most important part of a cycle. You need to work even harder than while on cycle. I'M SO GLAD YOU READ THE PCT STICKY! If only more people would do that. I know a decent amount about PCT but I am no pro, so I will leave it to Dylan. Dylan set-up a PCT for this guy please!
Note from PCT sticky: is something that extensive applicable to me.
Yes Dylan please set me up with a proper PCT. Just to clear up exactly what I'm plaining on doing and looking for. I want to lean down and get cut. Not planning on doing another cycle and really want to try and maintain as much as I can from this one. eating healthy and working out daily arnt an issue for me I love it.
First 5 weeks test and then second 5 weeks test & var to get the extra cut. Then weeks 6-10 hcg added as well. only thing I need is a good pct to keep me maintained as I continue to eat healthy and work out! thanks everyone so far for all the help. its like a mad science project trying to put this stuff together.
Yes Dylan please set me up with a proper PCT. Just to clear up exactly what I'm plaining on doing and looking for. I want to lean down and get cut. Not planning on doing another cycle and really want to try and maintain as much as I can from this one. eating healthy and working out daily arnt an issue for me I love it.
First 5 weeks test and then second 5 weeks test & var to get the extra cut. Then weeks 6-10 hcg added as well. only thing I need is a good pct to keep me maintained as I continue to eat healthy and work out! thanks everyone so far for all the help. its like a mad science project trying to put this stuff together.
Yes it complicated but it soooo important for your success. You're lucky to come to a forum where you will be set up so nicely. Just follow dylans advice and you will see great results.
I think some test either cyp or enath 1cc two times a week monday n like Thursday like 400 mg weekly also some deca 1or2 times a week u can put them I same syringe to save ur ass also take 1mg anastozole two or three times a week m w f u can throw some clomid in there to for extra blockers 50 mg two or three x a week
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