1st cycle need some input

[ajaygill]

im 24 years old new to the forum but not to the bodybuilding world. im 5,10 180 pounds, 14% BF, ive been Training : 5 days a week ...5 years straight
thinking about doing my first cycle and wondering if you could look it over and see how it loooks.

Test Enanthate 400mg/Weekly X 10 weeks
Oral Helios 111mg/ ED

PCT:
2 weeks after cycle
Nolva 20mg/ed or e2d
HCG

 

[splperformance]

personally i would just stick with the enanthate for 10 or 12 weeks (prefer 12) and see what sides you get from it...keep an AI on hand incase of gyno as it is always better to have on hand than trying to find once you get titties...for the HCG shoot 500iu's EW shot 2x per week until 5000iu's is gone and for the nolva i would run it for 4 weeks as follow (start 2 weeks after your last shot)...40ED/30/20/20 but guys have other opinions on nolva doses...but good luck and most importantly, make sure your source is a reliable and trustworthy source

 

[GUARDIAN]

I think u should be a little heavier (closer to 200) naturally b4 starting but....

Drop the test to 250mg ew (shoot it .5ml 2X like Sun & Wed)
Take no more than a couple of the oral helios a day to start.

I would run the hcg throughout and for pct @ 250IU's 2X ew starting at week 4, if u have enuf.
Have an AI on hand like adex and take .25mg eod.

PCT:

Nolva 20mg ed starting 2 weeks after your last pin.
HCG 500 IU's e3d
adex .25mg e3d

im 24 years old new to the forum but not to the bodybuilding world. im 5,10 180 pounds, 14% BF, ive been Training : 5 days a week ...5 years straight
thinking about doing my first cycle and wondering if you could look it over and see how it loooks.

Test Enanthate 400mg/Weekly X 10 weeks
Oral Helios 111mg/ ED

PCT:
2 weeks after cycle
Nolva 20mg/ed or e2d
HCG

 

[Selfcentor]

I think u should be a little heavier (closer to 200) naturally b4 starting but....

Drop the test to 250mg ew (shoot it .5ml 2X like Sun & Wed)
Take no more than a couple of the oral helios a day to start.

I would run the hcg throughout and for pct @ 250IU's 2X ew starting at week 4, if u have enuf.
Have an AI on hand like adex and take .25mg eod.

PCT:

Nolva 20mg ed starting 2 weeks after your last pin.
HCG 500 IU's e3d
adex .25mg e3d

I agree in dropping the test dosage. Save the big amounts for when your old and need it!

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

400mg test a week, good starting cycle.. Id run hcg throughout.. Aromasin is best in my opinion!

 

[eddymerckx]

im 24 years old new to the forum but not to the bodybuilding world. im 5,10 180 pounds, 14% BF, ive been Training : 5 days a week ...5 years straight
thinking about doing my first cycle and wondering if you could look it over and see how it loooks.

Test Enanthate 400mg/Weekly X 10 weeks
Oral Helios 111mg/ ED

PCT:
2 weeks after cycle
Nolva 20mg/ed or e2d
HCG

why helios? to keep the bloat down or are you trying to burn fat while on?

 

[GUARDIAN]

why helios? to keep the bloat down or are you trying to burn fat while on?

helios are fairly rare on here. i hardly ever see them. i sure hope it is not for the bloat and it is just for fat loss.

 

[eddymerckx]

helios are fairly rare on here. i hardly ever see them. i sure hope it is not for the bloat and it is just for fat loss.

i agree--but if fat loss is the goal he should consider primo + less calories + helios and an otc (lipoflame or cardio heat) on the off weeks

 

[bw1]

400mg test a week, good starting cycle.. Id run hcg throughout.. Aromasin is best in my opinion!

+1

 

[hehateme000]

Will someone be able to take 400mg of test for a 2nd cycle if he took 400mg for his first, if he waits long enough after he recovers fully from the 1st cycle? Why do people reccommend 250mg then?

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'm amazed to see newbies running the "Nolva 2 weeks following the cycle" protocol. That's so 1989.

 

[hehateme000]

Wouldnt a Pct of PP's recovery stack, and UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE be enough?

 

[ajaygill]

would you reccomend running somthing else?

I'm amazed to see newbies running the "Nolva 2 weeks following the cycle" protocol. That's so 1989.

 

[NoGainWithoutPain]

bump..