1st cycle modified Sust 250 plus ancillaries and PCT

[DScottaye]

40 years old
185 lbs
~10% bf
Zone Paleo 80%
Train CrossFit with rest days on Thursday and Sunday
Also spend an hour Olympic lifting and or squatting deadlifting etc before WOD

I started with just test injections. 125mg 2X per week
I've heard a million different opinions on dose.
Person who set me up recommended 125mg/week but that never happend.

I'm at the end of week 4


12 week Sust 250 cycle

Weeks
1 - Sust 250 125 mg twice a week
2 - Sust 250 125mg EOD
3 - Sust 250 250mg EOD
4-12 Sust 250mg Twice a week Monday and Thursday.
6-12 N2guard 7 caps every day spread out
6-18 HCGenerate 3 caps am 2 caps pm
6-18 Prami or Cabar light dose. .25mg EOD??????? I will have both.
5-12 Aromasin 12.5mg every other day
5-18 forma-stanzol 3 pumps am and 3 pumps pm
12-18 Unleashed/postcycle combo. 1 cap 3 times a day of each. Or at the very least forged post cycle 2 caps am and 2 caps pm
12-18 NTBM-DAA (D aspartic acid) 1 full serving every day.
14-18 Clomid 25,12.5,12.5,12.5
16-20 Bridge 1 cap 3 times a day


I'd love to pin 500mg a week but heard from an elite moderator on here that it may hurt my endurance. I think he suggested 250mg/week.

N2 says pin 1X per week.

Prami or Cabar? I ordered both.

Thank you for taking the time to look at this. Any other advice is always greatly appreciated

 

[dylangemelli]

bro, if this is a sust only cycle then why are you running caber or prami?

 

[DScottaye]

Seemed like there could be some general benefits even though I wasn't on tren or the other aas's that needed those ancillaries.

 

[moya]

are simple test only cycles seriously getting this complicated?.... jeezus...
20 years ago you just pinned test and ran a serm for pct... shit worked back then...

 

[DScottaye]

since being on here I've seen many people say that the shit that worked 20 years ago is for idiots today.

So that made me try to dig a little deeper.

The whole layout is slightly modified from what N2 posted as ideal except the Clomid and Caber.

Are you saying he is wrong?

Maybe he's just trying to sell his products.

I know I'd like to keep my nutts from shrinking and not crash after.

Thanks for your help with that post. I feel much better informed.

 

[moya]

since being on here I've seen many people say that the shit that worked 20 years ago is for idiots today.

So that made me try to dig a little deeper.

The whole layout is slightly modified from what N2 posted as ideal except the Clomid and Caber.

Are you saying he is wrong?

Maybe he's just trying to sell his products.

I know I'd like to keep my nutts from shrinking and not crash after.

Thanks for your help with that post. I feel much better informed.

all im saying is that arnold and frank zane and everyone from the past did just fine... but im sure they were just some idiots...

 

[DScottaye]

EVERYONE from the past did just fine??????????????????????????????

HA!

Every single person who did aas did just fine.

Interesting statement.

There is not one single idiot from the past

Guess I'm the only idiot here.



Thanks again..

 

[moya]

as a whole, they were just as productive as the individuals on this board et al...

 

[dylangemelli]

i dont see too much wrong with your cycle bro... and some people from other generations may have done okay, but i am not so sure in the long term but that is neither here nor there... There are now other options available that were not available back then... Like anything else that has ever gone on in the world, things change and new ways and methods come about... some people always stay old school and some people go with the new... That's personal option and we all have our choices...

There is no need for caber or prami on this cycle man... you only need that when dealing with prolactin, which you will not be dealing with on this cycle...

run your sust just as you have it and i will correct the rest for you... its not completely off but there are a few things i would tweak...

if you want to take n2guard that's great... its not totally necessary but it can definitely have its benefit... take it for 6-8 weeks

weeks 7-14 run hcg at 500 iu's week or hcgenerate

you do not need to be running two ai's on cycle and i know needto did not recommend that... run aromasin as you have it listed at the dosage you have listed... you will use forma in pct only...

your starting your pct too early... if you really want to do that you can but there's no need...

15-18 clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 daa
15-18 forma stanzol

there you go man

 

[DScottaye]

Thank you. I did change some stuff I took from N2, so it's not verbatim.

I will make those changes you have recommended.

I feel more comfortable about the 500mg/ week since you approve and I read up on what your daily cardio regimen looks like. That's an amazing amount of work.

I appreciate you taking the time to review my thread and respond. Much respect to you!