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BobBobson

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This is my first cycle ever and I admit I planned very poorly for it.

To start off:
20y/o
185lb
~13% bf

Original Stack:
wk: 1-8 test-p 560mg/wk EOD

So far I just finished my second week of test-p and I am losing hair out the ass. I am really starting to freak out about this.

Another thing that pisses me off is my friend who set everything up for me has been pinning me 160mg eod which is 640mg/wk. I did not want to go this high.

To me my hair is much more important than this cycle so I have decided that I want to stop at the 4 week mark but I'm not really sure how.

Should I begin to taper off?
Do i need a post cycle if my cycle only lasts for 4 weeks?
Would Nolva and HCG be enough?
For how long?

Or since my hair is already starting to fall out should I just stop today?

I'm really kicking myself in the ass for relying on someone else and not doing this shit on my own.

Today was also my first day taking HCG orals that my friend is prescribed and he also has some avodart that may help with my shedding but only has 2 pills left. Directions are to take 1 a week so would 2 be enough? or would I want to stay on them during pct?

If some experienced minds could please help me out here I would be forever indebted. Thank you!
 
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BobBobson said:
This is my first cycle ever and I admit I planned very poorly for it.

To start off:
20y/o
185lb
~13% bf

Original Stack:
wk: 1-8 test-p 560mg/wk EOD

So far I just finished my second week of test-p and I am losing hair out the ass. I am really starting to freak out about this.

Another thing that pisses me off is my friend who set everything up for me has been pinning me 160mg eod which is 640mg/wk. I did not want to go this high.

To me my hair is much more important than this cycle so I have decided that I want to stop at the 4 week mark but I'm not really sure how.

Should I begin to taper off?
Do i need a post cycle if my cycle only lasts for 4 weeks?
Would Nolva and HCG be enough?
For how long?

Or since my hair is already starting to fall out should I just stop today?

I'm really kicking myself in the ass for relying on someone else and not doing this shit on my own.

Today was also my first day taking HCG orals that my friend is prescribed and he also has some avodart that may help with my shedding but only has 2 pills left. Directions are to take 1 a week so would 2 be enough? or would I want to stay on them during pct?

If some experienced minds could please help me out here I would be forever indebted. Thank you!
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You're an idiot bro. You're taking way too much test, you have no knowledge of your own on this subject and should abandon this cycle.

Normally we don't give advice to people under 21 but because you are in deep shit I will help you.

You need to order everything I list ASAP and do rushed shipping on it.

Clomid (ag-guys.com)
Post cycle (proteinfactory.com)
Forged post cycle (mrsupps.com)
d-aspartic acid (mrsupps.com)
Formastanzol (mrsupps.com)

You will do the following till then
Inject 50mg eod of test p until everything arrives

When everything arrives
For 4 weeks
Clomid 25mg ed
Formastanzol 10 pumps daily
Post cycle (as stated on label)
Forged post cycle (as stated on label)
D-aspartic acid 3g ed
 
At not even 2 weeks in I'd just stop and don't bother with steroids for many years to come. You could take some hcgenerate and dspark for a few weeks until you level out. Stay away from juice and don't play with things you don't understand.
 
infraredline said:
I explained everything you needed to do in my above post. You are just going to have to deal with paying extra for rushed shipping. That's what you get for not planing properly.
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And dude honestly, thank you so much i'm going to get all of it but i'm still going to have to wait a while because i could not find a rushed shipping option
 
Go to GNC and see if they have any anti estrogen product there in the meanwhile. They might have something that won't be as good as what you have to wait for in the mail but perhaps they have a so so substitute. 6-OXO is alright and Novedex works ok, I used to use that. See if they have those products or something like that.
 
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BobBobson said:
I am literally so fucked I have absolutely nothing, no AI no pct no nothing.
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Calm down 2 weeks isn't gonna ruin your life. You may have a few rough weeks ahead but nothing a 21 year old can't bounce back from. Just get something to block estrogen rebound ASAP. The amount of suppression in 2 weeks is minimal at best and your hpta shouldn't be in any real danger. A solid natty test booster with an ai is all you need. Your not the first person to make this mistake and won't be the last. The body is very resilient and can go through hell and back and be ok. It just needs time to undo the damage.
 
Your only 2weeks in there is no major damage done apart from to your hairline. At least it was only test and not tren.. you will recover fine with the list the lads gave you so don't sweat it..

This is a valuable lession in life you have learned.. never jump into anything like this with the proper research

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fixerman said:
Go to GNC and see if they have any anti estrogen product there in the meanwhile. They might have something that won't be as good as what you have to wait for in the mail but perhaps they have a so so substitute. 6-OXO is alright and Novedex works ok, I used to use that. See if they have those products or something like that.
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joeblow12345 said:
Calm down 2 weeks isn't gonna ruin your life. You may have a few rough weeks ahead but nothing a 21 year old can't bounce back from. Just get something to block estrogen rebound ASAP. The amount of suppression in 2 weeks is minimal at best and your hpta shouldn't be in any real danger. A solid natty test booster with an ai is all you need. Your not the first person to make this mistake and won't be the last. The body is very resilient and can go through hell and back and be ok. It just needs time to undo the damage.
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bonacris said:
Your only 2weeks in there is no major damage done apart from to your hairline. At least it was only test and not tren.. you will recover fine with the list the lads gave you so don't sweat it..

This is a valuable lession in life you have learned.. never jump into anything like this with the proper research
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Thanks guys
 
Jbranken said:
Cold turkey without any pct on hand could lead to a major crash
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I have to disagree here. 2 weeks shouldn't cause any shutdown but if he continues on for several more weeks its gonna happen. Cold turkey is the best option IMO and the ai and test boosters will get him out of any hiccups he encounters. If it was a long ester I'd agree, but props half life is short enough that he could avoid any issues by stopping before he causes any more issues.
 
joeblow12345 said:
I have to disagree here. 2 weeks shouldn't cause any shutdown but if he continues on for several more weeks its gonna happen. Cold turkey is the best option IMO and the ai and test boosters will get him out of any hiccups he encounters. If it was a long ester I'd agree, but props half life is short enough that he could avoid any issues by stopping before he causes any more issues.
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His LH could very well be 0 after only a few weeks of prop. Its not unheard of. I'm not talking about hpta crash as much as mental. Depression isn't uncommon in younger men that stop steroids cold turkey. Not saying you're wrong but its something to consider. I agree the ai and t boosters will be enough, but he has nothing at the moment
 
Jbranken said:
His LH could very well be 0 after only a few weeks of prop. Its not unheard of. I'm not talking about hpta crash as much as mental. Depression isn't uncommon in younger men that stop steroids cold turkey. Not saying you're wrong but its something to consider. I agree the ai and t boosters will be enough, but he has nothing at the moment
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At his age its unlikely any permanent damage will arise after a couple weeks. A mini pct is sufficient but I wouldn't run any harsh serms or hcg in this case. I feel those will do more harm then good in this instance and extending the test is only gonna make the problem worse and make it harder to bounce back. Any time you come off juice there is a crash of some sort. It's much more tolerable with quality products, but either way you go you have to endure the fall from superhuman.
 
joeblow12345 said:
At his age its unlikely any permanent damage will arise after a couple weeks. A mini pct is sufficient but I wouldn't run any harsh serms or hcg in this case. I feel those will do more harm then good in this instance and extending the test is only gonna make the problem worse and make it harder to bounce back. Any time you come off juice there is a crash of some sort. It's much more tolerable with quality products, but either way you go you have to endure the fall from superhuman.
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I just ordered
Clomid
Post cycle
Forged post cycle
d-aspartic acid
Formastanzol

I have also been taking (for the past 2 days) sublingual HCG that was doctor prescribed to my friend

So are you saying it would be better for me to not use the clomid or HCG and just use the other 4 items?

I also pinned another 50 of test p today because my shipment hasnt gotten here yet...hopefully it will before thursday.

I am also thinking about taking finasteride for my hair loss.. thoughts?
 
I am all about him picking up some Finastride, an AI, and dropping the test dose to 100 mg eod.. and finishing the damn cycle!!
 
Yea, he could. Tho ppl arent happy about it, but he could plan better. Now he atleast got the supps on the way. Its an experience, not of the best kind, but... Will dropping down the dosages help your hairline and or supp for it? If not, test sure isnt for you. Atleast not those dosages. I tried running without 500mg test week without any AI. Didnt see any diffrence really. No gyno, little to no bloat, hairloss??! Nah, i have thick hair, but havent seen anything of notice. Tho, i get acne. I have a strong feeling that they can flare up like hell. Thats just me. :(
 
some of you missed that he is only 20

the less hormones going into his body the better. so i say stop asap before he gets deeper in this.

there are thousands of idiots out there injecting with no clue what they are doing because a 'friend' convinced them to do it. at that age you tend to listen more to 'friends' than you do people who actually know what they are talking about.. totally normal behavior at that age which is why its stupid to juice until you are atleast 25 minimum. and some guys aren't mature even at 25 to juice
 
I started seriously shedding a couple weeks into my first cycle of test only. No MPB in my family but have thin hair to begin with. The hairloss was obvious.

So I shaved my head.
 
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