1st Cycle - Anavar Only - Help Appreciated

[shrimp poboy]

taking less than 40mg ed unless you are a woman is a waste

 

[phonefool]

doses are very low. keep a constant dose. 40 mgs ed for 4 weeks.
Looks like you have not been around here that long, but we always suggest test as a first cycle, but we will help those that are serious. Research is key and that's good that you have done that.

a few ?'s --- what is toremifene?? we have some sponsors here that have some better natural products that are great for pct. search sustain alpha, test recovery stack from pp (premordial performance) (sponsor)
also some other stuff to help are Unleashed and Post Cycle.

Again, Welcome!!

toremifene citrate is Fareston (a SERM)

 

[phonefool]

taking less than 40mg ed unless you are a woman is a waste

i was waiting for someone to say something like this....thats actually not true if a woman takes my proposed cycle i fear virilization for her...a woman can run as little as 5mg maybe 10mg tops and get results....and first time male users can get results from 20mg -..look im not interested in crazy gains have you read my first post? im lookin for a boost that will be easy to maintain / avoid sides as much as possible

 

[micksnowdog]

i'm using test prop 150eod, masteron 150eod and anavar 50mg ed and i have no sides except muscle growth and injection site pain.

 

[Lambruh]

i may continue the cycle for a second month (running 8 weeks total) if i like how the first 4 weeks are working out...as far as proviron goes, i have heard of hairloss as a side.....and i know test prop is often recommended , but even at a low dose i hear those who are gyno prone can get a flare up from prop? note excited to lose my libido but should come back easy with proper PCT no?

as far as when my cycle is over....you mention hormones and andro's all tampered and having zero testosterone.....did you see my PCT listed above? wont the Toremifene Citrate (SERM) stacked with Reversitol (AI) help get me back in check quickly? whether i run a 4 week or 8 week i thought this PCT would be adequate?

gyno won't flare up at a HRT dose, that's what AI's are for anyways

anavar doesn't aromatize, using a AI post or during a anavar only cycle is pointless, let alone any OTC inhibitor

you're worried so much on PCT, i'm talking about on cycle your testosterone will plummet on anavar only. Outside of just muscle repair and libido, you have mood, energy, cortisol, metabolism, brain function and receptors all affected by test.

I'm only advising you on first hand basis and what i'm aware of, i've ran anavar only cycles and i've been an amateur to the game to "I don't want sides" etc. You will feel alot better running test with anavar, then var by itself in every aspect. You're going to get sides from var by itself, whether you "physically" notice them or not, you're putting a foreign anabolic into your bloodstream, a strong anabolic at that. Don't even bother taking a AAS if you are concerned about sides and just want some "quick month boost", your messing with your hormones period and the minimal results you get for what you have setup just aren't worth it, just stick to the NO2 and creatine.

 

[Mystery da Pick Up Artist]

i was waiting for someone to say something like this....thats actually not true if a woman takes my proposed cycle i fear virilization for her...a woman can run as little as 5mg maybe 10mg tops and get results....and first time male users can get results from 20mg -..look im not interested in crazy gains have you read my first post? im lookin for a boost that will be easy to maintain / avoid sides as much as possible

Docs give aids and burn victim patients 20mg ED for recovery, they're not getting a "boost"

you don't even know whether or not to take orals with or without food, 5 posts later you're trying to spit knowledge? Looks like you're looking for a debate rather than soaking up first hand advice (that you clearly need)

you already have 4-5 experienced AAS users in this thread telling you what you have lineup isn't worth any results, you can either listen or continue getting your info off some outdated bb.com steroid profile written by one person.

 

[phonefool]

Docs give aids and burn victim patients 20mg ED for recovery, they're not getting a "boost"

you don't even know whether or not to take orals with or without food, 5 posts later you're trying to spit knowledge? Looks like you're looking for a debate rather than soaking up first hand advice (that you clearly need)

you already have 4-5 experienced AAS users in this thread telling you what you have lineup isn't worth any results, you can either listen or continue getting your info off some outdated bb.com steroid profile written by one person.

look dont take it the wrong way im not looking for a debate..my bad for getting defensive...you are exactly right that i need advice and that is why i am here....i thought from my research its best to take it with a meal (something fatty) or at least some EFA"s....but i heard it does not matter from others so i was just looking for more insight....anyway i appreciate anyone who took time to post a reply...

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

I ran Var as my first "real" cycle, although Ive ran some other oral products with MUCH better results, and let me tell you, anything less than 40mg you'll probably wonder why you just wasted your money. There are many sponsors on here that sell OTC products taht will give you much better results than 20mg of Var.

Hell you can run HAVOC at 3 caps a day, stay dry, have anti E properties, and get more strengeth boost than 20mg Var. Trust me, it was my first run of anything and I wish I had bumbed it much higher than I did. Don't waste your money unless youre planning on doing things right.

I can send you the link for OTC products that will give you much better results if you would like.

-Legacy

 

[phonefool]

gyno won't flare up at a HRT dose, that's what AI's are for anyways

anavar doesn't aromatize, using a AI post or during a anavar only cycle is pointless, let alone any OTC inhibitor

you're worried so much on PCT, i'm talking about on cycle your testosterone will plummet on anavar only. Outside of just muscle repair and libido, you have mood, energy, cortisol, metabolism, brain function and receptors all affected by test.

I'm only advising you on first hand basis and what i'm aware of, i've ran anavar only cycles and i've been an amateur to the game to "I don't want sides" etc. You will feel alot better running test with anavar, then var by itself in every aspect. You're going to get sides from var by itself, whether you "physically" notice them or not, you're putting a foreign anabolic into your bloodstream, a strong anabolic at that. Don't even bother taking a AAS if you are concerned about sides and just want some "quick month boost", your messing with your hormones period and the minimal results you get for what you have setup just aren't worth it, just stick to the NO2 and creatine.

ok i hear you so at the low dose test prop its just keeping my test level normal..hence no sides...and from your earlier post its either that or at least the proviron? and you said if i stick with anavar only my cycle was too short and dose too little...so what do you recommend? for a first timer...40mg ed for 6 weeks? if i decided to go with the test prop base is my anavar dose still too weak? same deal with the proviron? and i understand the torm i will need for pct regardless what i do...but the reversitol is a waste with anavar only? i heard even tho it doesnt aromatize you can still get estrogen rebound... sorry to hit you up with so many questions...i thought i had it figured out and now i see i dont...and btw as far as being so worried about the PCT and part of my reasoning for the small dose is just in case the var is faked with some other gear...the local source is suppose to be solid but 'what if"....thanks man

 

[phonefool]

I ran Var as my first "real" cycle, although Ive ran some other oral products with MUCH better results, and let me tell you, anything less than 40mg you'll probably wonder why you just wasted your money. There are many sponsors on here that sell OTC products taht will give you much better results than 20mg of Var.

Hell you can run HAVOC at 3 caps a day, stay dry, have anti E properties, and get more strengeth boost than 20mg Var. Trust me, it was my first run of anything and I wish I had bumbed it much higher than I did. Don't waste your money unless youre planning on doing things right.

I can send you the link for OTC products that will give you much better results if you would like.

-Legacy

well i already got the var...30ml at 20mg/ml..wanna run it one way or another...so i guess for a good cycle either i need another bottle or i need to stack it with something....i know about otc ph's like havoc, original halo, and prostanz (for cutting)..we got a local supp store here that sells those plus many other otc phs...i heard its not good to stack orals...would it make more sense to stack the var with one of those...or just get another bottle and up my dose...or just man up with the test base (hopin to avoid the pinz)....but yeah send me the link anyway ill check it out...