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1AD/4AD Toxicity and Dosage

Quiller

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Are there any indications that one may get that the liver or kidneys are being damaged by toxic products?

When taking 1AD and adding 4/AD, both orally, would this be harmful to the organs? To much for the liver to process on a daily basis?

I see that people are making great gains lately but is there any harm in it?
I am taking 1AD now for a second cycle. First cycle went well, gained 15lbs. I have ordered 4AD to add to the cycle. Now I am wondering if this would be a bad idea. Of course I want the gains, but not at the cost of a destroyed liver.

I work in a health care industry, and just last week I visited a family that needed financial help. The husbands liver has failed and he is on his death bed. Kaiser will not pay for his liver transplant and he is pretty much out of luck. Seeing him laid up like that at 47yrs old, made me realize that fun and games are great but if it leads to a bad situation it is not worth it.

So what do you think? Taking vitamins twice a day, creatine, glutamine, protein powder, b-12 tabs, 1AD and maybe adding 4AD..
This looks like a lot for the liver to handle every day.. I am just getting paranoid from visiting that man laying in bed, yellow and not much chance to live?

Does anyone else think of these things?

Quiller:sick:
 
Before I start my 1ad/4ad stack I have allready stocked up on ALA, Milk Thistle, and Cranberry Extract to do as much to protect those oragsn as possible.

Also going to make sure I get a gallon of water in me a day.
 
It's probably going to put a little stress on the liver, but I wouldn't imagine it being too severe. Prohormones aren't 17-alpha-alkylated like D-bol or Anadrol are. Those oral steroids are lot more harsh on the liver.

But if your really worried about it take some r-ALA, Silymarin and selenium. This is the same supplement regimen that Dr. Burt Berkson uses to treat his patients with Hepatitis C, and I'm sure their liver's are under much worse stress than yours.
 
magman1 said:
doesnt 1AD make the claim that it bypasses the liver?? if its true or not is another story

nothing "bypasses" the liver, everything that goes into your body, be it oral, injectable, or transdermal must get processed by your liver at some point.
 
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