17 AA Orals and Couple Beers?

[DoseOfTruth]

I am currently on OX at 50 MG ED - 10 Weeks. Once a week, I allow myself a night to relax and hit the bars with friends. I'll usually drink 4-5 light beers (never more than 6). I also religioulsly take Tylers, ALA, Milk Thistle.

I am on my 6th week and am just curious if these small outings are putting any hardships on my liver...OR...am I worrying over nothing?

Thanks in advance...

PS - The results on 50 MG OX ED are incredible

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

YES....

PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!!

 

[DoseOfTruth]

hahah

yes what?? yes i am worrying over nothing or yes it is too hard on the liver??

 

[ProteinFiend]

you probably should be worrying... when taking orals it is bad to put any extra stress on your liver... alcohol is one of the things bb'ers must sacrifice...

i guess if you must have the beer... you can drink it until your liver starts to hurt... but then you have to drop EVERYTHING for a number of months... i dont reccommend this, as it is risky...

alternative: ever try a joint?

 

[kidkoala]

I'm gonna run the same cycle. If your gonna have a beer hit the Tyler's and M. Thisle 2x your regular dose and drink lots of water. What brand of var are you using? Have you put on any weight?

 

[DoseOfTruth]

Thanks

Liver hasn't hurt yet, but I don't want to go there.

I am on PaperVar 50 MG ED. I am on a low calorie diet trying to cut up. I have gained about 6-7 lbs. in 6 weeks but look much more lean and muscular.

 

[kidkoala]

What week did you start to notice weight gain?

 

[DoseOfTruth]

1st week noticed visually - 2nd week scale started rising.

 

[jubei]

A joint is the way to go. Well, I guess since I live in BC and have access to the worlds best bud... I know it hurts your test production, but your body probably isn't producing any right now anyways. Well, just don't overdo it.

 

[ESTELOMBO]

i just wanna know where i can find some var in ireland

 

[TxRugby_8]

no offense, but you're shelling out the money to take anavar, and then you go out and drink? isn't that kind of a waste, even if it's one day a week.

 

[genarr3]

LOL. "Wait til your liver starts to hurt?"
Umm - fellas by the time your liver starts hurting serious damage has already been done.

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

Genarr is right which is why everybody should take every precaution they can whether it be abstaining from a certain something i.e. "The Beer" in your case or using supplements to combat possible sides when using a drug like A.S.. Your health should be high on your list when we talk about values so why not pay for some supps. like tyler's liver detox or milk thistle to keep your liver clean as a whistle or cranberry extract for the kidneys and some other helpful supps such as a good daily vitamin, etc.. It seems like many people feel they don't need any kinds of supps when taking a cycle but i would say the logical thing to do if you value your health is do it right and be safe. Try and get away with the lowest doses u can get because u only live once and the higher the A.S. you put in your body not to mention the type will greater the possibilty of more side effects and more harmful!!! Have a good day... ~JT~

 

[thermo]

Yay prob not the smartest thing.

 

[IronKop77]

Bro can I ask why?
Go to the bar drink a coke or some water. Your liver is already under constant stress process the var why overload it by binge drinking one or 2 nights a week. Yes six beers is binge drinking. If you think that taking your precautionary supplements is going to work wondes then go for it. But why take such an unnecessary risk. Cant you go out and have a good time without being slightly intoxicated? Take care and be safe!
iron

 

[DoseOfTruth]

Convinced

Thanks for the input. I will abstain from alcohol during the balance of my cycle.

I guess I figured a few beers would be harmless...thanks for the info.!

 

[babbabuee]

I just finished 4 weeks of 25mg ed naposims and I took the milk thistle and had two beers in 4 weeks and was worried about those when i drank them. good for you bro, stay away until your done. On that note, you guys think it's safe for me to start drinking again? Drinking to me is one, maybe two beers every other day or so.

 

[thaibol]

Re: Thanks

Liver hasn't hurt yet, but I don't want to go there.

I am on PaperVar 50 MG ED. I am on a low calorie diet trying to cut up. I have gained about 6-7 lbs. in 6 weeks but look much more lean and muscular.

There are no nerve endings in your liver. Your liver will not start to hurt. Sometimes the liver swells, creating pressure on other organs or the ab wall which is what causes pain.

Do not wait for pain to signal possible liver damage! Geez, that's bad advice.

Although I believe the liver can take a lot of abuse, grit it out and stay off the booze when on cycle. Sometimes soda water can give you that scratchy feeling in your throat like you're boozing it up with the guys. Better than plain water or colas. That's assuming you don't go the pot route.

G/L. I had the same sort of weight gains on Var/Ox yet looked much leaner. Surprised me because I didn't expect to gain scale weight. You know you're packing on nice dense muscle when that happens. That, and setting PRs on bench, etc.

 

[Mr. Las Vegas]

Just do some fucking heroin.

 

[TxRugby_8]

Just do some fucking heroin.

bwahahaha

 

[MrMemphis]

The liver may not have any nerve endings. That does not mean you will not have liver pain!!!!!! The fascia surrounding the liver is loaded with nerve endings. When the liver swells you will feel a dull pain on the right side of your body. Also look for pain in the front part of your shoulders and on the right side of your back.

 

[BullGod]

Best advice is:

When you go to a bar or restaurant, order one light beer and a bottle of water. Slowly sip the beer, and continue to drink the bottle of water. Whenever rounds are ordered, just order another water. You may finish the beer over the course of the night, but one light beer is easily metabolized by the liver - even on 17AA's. Plus you don't look anti-social because people won't keep track of how many you have ordered - they just see a beer in front of you and think you are as fucked up as they are.

This works well for me in social / drinking situations.

 

[OXANDRIN]

17aa's and liver problems are overrated IMO....i guess drinking isn't the ideal thing to do. but other thing are bad for your liver too. just be healthy and get it checked if you are worried. the liver is very resiliant and keeps coming back to normal at least while you are young. i would say like 100mg dbol ED and usnic acid would be a BAD idea. but 50mg ox and a couple beers on the weekend.........ahhhhh. take some ala, and eat healthy you'll live 80% of the time