14 wk bulk than cut?

[murderthedeadlift]

Im thinking of bulking for 8 weeks then cutting for six.The thing is, I dont wanna come off of gear.Many bros have done long cycles with out comming off, so i dont see why not bulk than cut on basicly the same cycle.
I wont lose any gains if im still on,right? I would just lower the dosage and stick to one compound.

 

[WannaBeBig72]

Im thinking of bulking for 8 weeks then cutting for six.The thing is, I dont wanna come off of gear.Many bros have done long cycles with out comming off, so i dont see why not bulk than cut on basicly the same cycle.
I wont lose any gains if im still on,right? I would just lower the dosage and stick to one compound.

I'm doing something similar now. Running test/eq for 16 weeks and running winny the last 5 or 6 weeks. I ran dbol the first 4 too. I'm sticking with the same dosage of test and eq throughout and the winny at 50mg ed.

 

[murderthedeadlift]

oh really? I want to lower it because i feel i wont gain just maintain so why waist the gear.But then again i dont fuckin know cuz ive never done over 8 wks.

 

[satchboogie]

patience is the key in this sport.
some wanna do it all in one cycle..
and while thats possible, i think a better approach would be to plan a mean bulker.. take time off.. and then jump on a mean cutter.

do that back and forth and surely over time youll be where you wanna be.

another approach is the yo yo diet..

2 weeks bulk/2 weeks cut

i did that last cycle, and was pleased.

 

[murderthedeadlift]

how pleased? How much gain/loss?

 

[JKurz1]

What will your diet be like?

 

[WannaBeBig72]

patience is the key in this sport.
some wanna do it all in one cycle..
and while thats possible, i think a better approach would be to plan a mean bulker.. take time off.. and then jump on a mean cutter.

do that back and forth and surely over time youll be where you wanna be.

another approach is the yo yo diet..

2 weeks bulk/2 weeks cut

i did that last cycle, and was pleased.

You recommended this to me a couple of weeks ago and I'm real intrigued by it honestly..Maybe modify it a bit. I'm in week 6 now and am planning on cutting for 3 weeks 8-10 (try to drop like 5-6 pounds of fat) and then weeks 11-16 try to gain some lean mass (maybe drop a couple of pounds of fat and gain some strength).

 

[JKurz1]

Whats your gear and diet like for each of the two weeks?
Tesst prop/dbol? Anything that aint nailed down is fair game as long as you get 300g of pro.? Zero cardio.

Eq/Winny/tren/eca for 2 weeks, cardio every am, 7 small meals tappering off carbs in the pm?

 

[satchboogie]

You recommended this to me a couple of weeks ago and I'm real intrigued by it honestly..Maybe modify it a bit. I'm in week 6 now and am planning on cutting for 3 weeks 8-10 (try to drop like 5-6 pounds of fat) and then weeks 11-16 try to gain some lean mass (maybe drop a couple of pounds of fat and gain some strength).

the idea behind the yo yo diet is to now allow the body to get used to the dietary changes.

so if we bulk for 2 weeks, the body adapts right away and grows.
then we cut cals dramatically and add cardio and the body adapts fast to that too and responds appropriately by burning off that extra fat.

keep in mind on the cutting phases i think the addition of a very strong oral anabolic is a must as cutting is more stressful on the body. so the addition of 100mg anadrol per day or 50-75mg dbol per day is how i'd do that part.

another philosophy behind the yo-yo plan is that you wont burn out on either bulking or cutting. bulking isnt that bad as we eat all day and train.. but cutting is a nightmare at times so runnin a cutter for 2 weeks shouldnt burn you out. also, clen will be a must for the cuttin phases and its affects on the body are shortlived after 2 weeks so thats another plus about the plan.. 2 weeks on clen while cutting/2 weeks off clen when bulking.

the end result should be you staying at the same weight..
but youll be with much less fat, and much more muscle.

i say give it a try bro..
i dont think youll be dissapointed.

 

[JKurz1]

Can winny or eq be substituted for clen? Prob not, because of the time it takes to kick in, eh? How about your basic ECA stack....clen has done zilch for me in the past....