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100 mg test cyp a week enough?

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Matthersby

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Ended up in the ER with hyperthyroidism and low test. Planned on TRT by 35 anyways but seeing my test levels at 214 at 33 years old, I jumped at the chance since my insurance will cover all of it now. I am curious with low levels what 100 mg of cyp should do weekly. I was really hoping for 200 a week but I was able to get my urologist to do just 3 appointments a year and at home self injections. Just unsure if 100 will get me towards the higher end of range or if I need to push him to up the dose...

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Ur definitely gonna need more mgs 100mg isn't much of cyp I would try 200 mg at least I'm 34 on trt I take 1.5 cc twice weekly it's 200 mg cyp so 600 mg weekly before trt 304 ng/ dl after couple months 1993ng/dl
 
Deff need more I'm 34 on trt before treatment 401ng/dl after 1993ng/dl I do 1.5 2x week monday n Thursday the cyp is 200 mg so I take 600 mg weekly
 
150 brought me up to 606 (Scale was like 178-750) so my doc wont increase mine. I started about 300.
46 y/o
170 lbs
 
I was doing 200mg EW, started off at 329 and went to 1150, now I'm doing 300mg EW and happy at 1320 on Cyp. I'm 51
 
200mg/wk is going to be very top end for most docs. That will put most people over 1000. 100mg/wk may not be ideal but you can prolably play with the numbers a bit to get a little more. Remember that they need to start somewhere, see where it gets you and adjust from there.
 
100mg/week is a pretty standard dose and should get you into the high end of normal, especially if you use HCG as well. I do test cyp 100mg /wk with HCG 350u 2x/wk and my last blood work had my test level at just over 1000. Having test level like birch at almost 2000 is too high for trt and he will be more likely to have side effects with long term use.
 
100mg is fine for a TRT dose. The point of TRT is to keep your test levels within normal ranges, and that should put you in the upper spectrum. If you run higher doses over longer periods things start to happen like high red blood cell count and other health issues. The idea is to stay within ranges and then run the higher doses when you want to blast only
 
Only blood tests will tell how much you need. After a month or so get bloods and have them adjust the dose as necessary to get you in a good range.


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So far so good shavas I be been on thearpy for 6 or so yrs I take 1 mg 3x a week tamoxifen 10 mg 2 or 3 times a week also m I use hcg 10000 to 20000 u for post very other day till its gone feel great so far
 
Birch said:
also m I use hcg 10000 to 20000 u for post very other day till its gone feel great so far
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HUH?? 10,000 to 20,000 u HCG Post what?
 
Yup my HRT Dr also has me doing 2,000iu ED for 10 days. Total 20,000 and its awesome for PCT. I take Test Cyp 200mg ew for 12 weeks plus Anastrozole and Finestride. Also add some HCGenerate off/on plus some Unleash. Works for me also.
 
PHGHI said:
Yup my HRT Dr also has me doing 2,000iu ED for 10 days. Total 20,000 and its awesome for PCT.
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PCT = Post cycle therapy.

TRT = testosterone REPLACEMENT therapy

when you are on trt you dont come off, there is NO POST CYCLE. Your not cycling.

much more effective to take small doses of HCG couple days a week than to try and wake things up after a couple months by taking large doses of hcg anyway.
 
Birch said:
Ur definitely gonna need more mgs 100mg isn't much of cyp I would try 200 mg at least I'm 34 on trt I take 1.5 cc twice weekly it's 200 mg cyp so 600 mg weekly before trt 304 ng/ dl after couple months 1993ng/dl
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Bro watch out for prostate problems. That's high levels too high imo to sustain over time.

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Birch said:
Ur definitely gonna need more mgs 100mg isn't much of cyp I would try 200 mg at least I'm 34 on trt I take 1.5 cc twice weekly it's 200 mg cyp so 600 mg weekly before trt 304 ng/ dl after couple months 1993ng/dl
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I have NEVER heard of someone being prescribed 600mg of Test C or E per week for TRT. If you are doing a real cycle yes, but TRT no.
 
Matthersby said:
Ended up in the ER with hyperthyroidism and low test. Planned on TRT by 35 anyways but seeing my test levels at 214 at 33 years old, I jumped at the chance since my insurance will cover all of it now. I am curious with low levels what 100 mg of cyp should do weekly. I was really hoping for 200 a week but I was able to get my urologist to do just 3 appointments a year and at home self injections. Just unsure if 100 will get me towards the higher end of range or if I need to push him to up the dose...

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100mg per week will put most men in the 400-500ng/dl range.
 
Hell 100mg a wk is most most people need, mine came back at 96 the Dr wasn't too concerned, gave me a shot and left it at that, I have a cabinet full of test so i just took matters into my own hands besides it's cheaper.
 
Not to but in on a thread , but doc has me on 400 mg test depot weekly for the last three months , next week is last pin then he wants bloods done first week of dec.. As having no pct after a week or two would I be supressed , thus resulting in low test levels. Or what can I do to ensure low levels again to be able to continue on the 400 mg weekly?
 
dew925 said:
Not to but in on a thread , but doc has me on 400 mg test depot weekly for the last three months , next week is last pin then he wants bloods done first week of dec.. As having no pct after a week or two would I be supressed , thus resulting in low test levels. Or what can I do to ensure low levels again to be able to continue on the 400 mg weekly?
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The only way to drop down in level, it to severely cut your dosage, or stop all together. The goal of HRT is to maintain a level. That is why he is taking blood, to monitor and adjust accordingly. if you are doing a hot next week and testing level the week after, you will be high on the scale. Not much you can do there.

Are you pinning yourself, or at the docs? If doing at home, you could skip that dose.

Personally I would want to rely on 400mg/wk for TRT. That is over kill and not enough to get real cycle results. 200/wk should be plenty. Save the rest for a cycle once a year or so IMO.
 
Doc is doing the pinning at his office weekly, so what your saying is too skip next week an then get bloods first week of dec an test should be lower since I've been off for about 2-2 1/2 weeks an I should be supressed an reading lower?
 
dew925 said:
Doc is doing the pinning at his office weekly, so what your saying is too skip next week an then get bloods first week of dec an test should be lower since I've been off for about 2-2 1/2 weeks an I should be supressed an reading lower?
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Yes. As long as the doc doing the test isn't the one that's pinning you.

Either way 400/WK is too much for long term trt and a waste IMO.

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Birch said:
So far so good shavas I be been on thearpy for 6 or so yrs I take 1 mg 3x a week tamoxifen 10 mg 2 or 3 times a week also m I use hcg 10000 to 20000 u for post very other day till its gone feel great so far
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Nothing in this post made sense
 
Yes hardrock same doc doing the blood test is the one pinning me . Without trying to sound like a smartass why does that make a difference? An why is 400 a week a waste? I'm feeling like a million bucks now an girlfriend is loving it.
 
400mg/wk is not enough for cycle like gains long term, and way more than you need for TRT. I currently run 200 mg/wk to cruise and blast with a cycle 1-2 times a year.
 
dew925 said:
Yes hardrock same doc doing the blood test is the one pinning me . Without trying to sound like a smartass why does that make a difference?
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Well, he'll know you skipped a dose and that's why your levels are low. He's gonna wanna know what your levels are while on the prescribed dose.
 
dew925 said:
If he keeps me on 400 weekly , what would be a good blast 600 for 8 weeks
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A blast is a cycle. Upping 400 to 600 is not what I would consider a cycle. Your body will already adapted to the higher dose of 400. Now 200 to 600 would be a much better option IMO.

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I've been following this thread with interest. Can I ask what country you're in Dew?

In the UK (England in my case) we don't often have blood tests or AI and stuff from the NHS (National Health Service). Actually, it's an absolute nightmare to get any sort of TRT no matter whether you need it or not.
Anyway, I wish my doctor was as liberal as yours with doseage. 400mg of any testosterone is massive in TRT terms. I had cancer in 2002 and lost a testicle in the process. My blood levels of Free T and Total T were almost zilch and I spent the best part of a year trying to get treatment. At the end of 2002 I was prescribed Sustanon 250 (250mg mixed ester) every FOUR weeks. From day 10 to 28 following an injection was horrible, and low T symptoms were bad. After a few months my doctor adjusted the frequency to every three weeks, which works out at just over 80mg per week!!! That in England is considered more than the usual dose.

My point is I think my levels of TRT is underdosed whereas yours is the opposite end of the scale. I think in a perfect world where every man was the same the doseage of any short or medium T ester would be in the region of 140-160mg per week. That would put most guys >90% in the high normal range of levels and ensure high and stable levels of free or circulating T. The free T level is probably the most important figure, in order to determine how you should feel, rather than how much is stored in your tissues etc. I'm sorry Dew, but you might feel great on 400mg a week, and I'm sure your partner loves it and is enjoying the benefits of TRT as much as you are;) but, in the long term - as another poster has said - your heath is going to pay for it. With this in mind I feel that your doctor will probably chop your dose to at least 300mg maybe even 200mg, which is still more than double what most guys get. If he keeps you on weekly shots you shouldn't notice any difference really and your lipid levels i.e.) Triglycerides, LDL, and VLDL and RBC count will be less of a concern to your health in future years. Don't forget that testosterone also has an effect on your internal organs in large doses too. There's been more than a handful of deaths of athletes with enlarged heart muscles, not mention liver problems, and prostate issues.

Like other comments have said...having a weekly dose of 200mg and an occasional blast/cycle of 600mg to 800mg per week will have far more beneficial effects regarding increasing muscle mass/libido than other options.

Goos luck with your blood tests and next consultation. Let us all know how it goes:)
 
Yes I'll post up bloods after I get the results in a couple weeks , in addition to what the docs says or is doing.
 
I am 58 and get 200 mg every other week, with a compounded test cream to apply daily. My TT was 565 a month ago. Also get 1 mg per week of Ana by tablet. Would like to get HCG, doc refuses and a 5 year search (ordeal) for a decent doc turned up the guy I have now.

TRT is just plain a miserable experience.
 
StandAndDeliver said:
TRT is just plain a miserable experience.
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Please explain why you say this. I love the idea of having the test levels of a teen for the rest of my life.

Been on TRT for 6 yrs now and no complaints whatsoever.


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Gatemoney what this means is take anastrozole 1 mg tab 3x a week like mwf then tue Thursday take 10 mg tomoxifen do this while on cycle when u come off cycle do the same thing but add hcg 1000 units every other day till gone I usually do 2 10 cc bottles at 10000 u per bottle that's what my hrt dr says to do works great for me lol
 
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