1 week to go ! (Test E)

[Who am I]

Hallo I just what to be 100 % sure that this cycle is good to go!

1-2 750mg Test E (500mg Monday - 250mg Thursday)
3-12 500mg Test E (250mg monday - 250mg thursday)
1-14 50mg Proviron ED
15-16 40 mg Nolvadex ED
17-18 20mg Nolvadex ED
With my last shot Test I will inject 1500 iu HCG E5D x 3

What do you guys think. ?? Is it bulletproff ?

 

[aceofspades]

Hallo I just what to be 100 % sure that this cycle is good to go!

1-2 750mg Test E (500mg Monday - 250mg Thursday)
3-12 500mg Test E (250mg monday - 250mg thursday)
1-14 50mg Proviron ED
15-16 40 mg Nolvadex ED
17-18 20mg Nolvadex ED
With my last shot Test I will inject 1500 iu HCG E5D x 3

What do you guys think. ?? Is it bulletproff ?

I do not think you need to run the Test E at 750mg the first couple of weeks. You would be better off getting some Test Prop to get things moving quicker or even dbol. You also might want to add a AI like AIFM and add get a better PCT setup with Clomid and possibly some DHEA.

Have fun and keep us posted

 

[Who am I]

I will have the desired testosterone level up after only 2 weeks insted of 4 weeks. If I frontload ?! I only want to use test e in my first cycle. Clomid isent nessesary when I do Nolvadex and HCG. Clomid is an old drug that has many side effects and doses the same as Nolvadex just that Nolva dont have any sides. Any other comments.. Thinking about the proviron use ad frontloading...

 

[lifthard2005]

frontloading is doubling your intended cycle dose. so if you plan on running 500mg ew, then week 1 should be 1000mg.......if you were running 400mg ew, then 800mg would be week 1......and you only need to frontload for one week IMO, two weeks is not necessary.

other than that, looks good. good luck bro!

 

[aceofspades]

I will have the desired testosterone level up after only 2 weeks insted of 4 weeks. If I frontload ?! I only want to use test e in my first cycle. Clomid isent nessesary when I do Nolvadex and HCG. Clomid is an old drug that has many side effects and doses the same as Nolvadex just that Nolva dont have any sides. Any other comments.. Thinking about the proviron use ad frontloading...

Some people think frontloading works and some people think it is totally BS. I have never found it to do much good but to each his own. Do you need Clomid for your PCT? No, but I find that it helps me recover quicker. Plus I never use HCG during my PCT. You are trying to get your own system going again during PCT and HCG does not help. I have always taking it during my cycle.

 

[git_er_done]

No reason to frontload.....might wanna look into a AI..

 

[gettnlarge01]

Any reason you don"t want to run an oral to kisk start the cycle?

 

[Who am I]

Yes want it to be a safe cycle. Dont want any 17aa roids. I know I schould inject 1 g test the first week but i am affraid to get roid flue. I have proviron as a anti-e during the cycle and it keep my normal test up and running so it going to be easier to get my balls working again. Do I only need to frontload 1 week then ? Or schould I go ahed with the cycle at stated.

 

[Who am I]

bump

 

[DieselGunz]

aromasin through out

 

[gettnlarge01]

Frontload for 2wks at 1gram a week

 

[Who am I]

WHY ? I get 122 mg in peak then ? My stabel needs to be around 90 mg active testosterone.. So when I do as I do its because my peak is 102mg then its stabel after only 1 week. When i load 1 g of test EW x 2. Wouldent i get roid flue.. ?

 

[Who am I]

bump

 

[solidspine]

Don’t add anything, looks great,

Don’t front load test, just 500mg per week-perfect

Wait three weeks after last shot, not with the last shot, for start of hcg.

Ok?

This is your fist cycle?

I assume you know about, diet, drinking, training, sleep, recovering, blah, blah blah,,,,,,,,,,

Nail that gym hard. Gain some muscle boy!!!

 

[Who am I]

solidspine:

I dont agree with you.. Maybe you know a lot more than me.. After what I have read the last 4 year on anabolic sites(forums). Hcg must be administrated start with last shoot test e and then up to pct.
OR from week 5 and then low dose in the cycle. Also until pct starts. Bt not with pct because you will not get your own natual test up while on hcg. And that the point of pct.
And why not frontload I will get my test level up faster to a stabel level with frontloading and it will kick in after 2 weeks instead of slow acting. Whitch test e is. Because of the long ester. ? Please comment if I am wrong.

 

[digimon7068]

Mine looks similar, except I'm running test-e at 750 ew 1-12 then prop at 100 ed 13-15 followed by PCT.

 

[SwolK]

Don’t add anything, looks great,

Don’t front load test, just 500mg per week-perfect

Wait three weeks after last shot, not with the last shot, for start of hcg.

Ok?

This is your fist cycle?

I assume you know about, diet, drinking, training, sleep, recovering, blah, blah blah,,,,,,,,,,

Nail that gym hard. Gain some muscle boy!!!

should'nt pct be started 10-14 days after last shot of Test E?

Also, i agree with you on the HCG, who am I says to run it between last jab and PCT, any one else comment on that subject?

 

[Who am I]

Please Comment..

 

[blut wump]

Just run the numbers. Your first two weeks take you way over the levels you'll be stabilizing at.

For HCG and PCT, ideally, you want to be finished with the HCG at the time that your natural production is expected to kick in. IE, HCG is over at the start of PCT although, by the nature of these things, there could be a some overlap.

The general guidline, when using test enan or cyp, is to begin HCG five days after last shot and run it for 10 days. Some like to run it for longer. After that time, the exogenous test level will be such that the breakdown of remaining ester will be starting to fall below normal natural production and PCT should then be under way.

 

[Who am I]

I know I will be like 15 active mg over my stabel blood levels. Thats nothing. I know it will be beter to frontload with 1g - 1 week. Bt dont want to get a roid flue. That why.

I have 3 x 1500iu hcg. So only 3 shoots. Dont what to devde it in doses and take steril water etc. So 1500iu E5D ? Or how would you run it ?

 

[mikefear]

AIFM 2 pumps/day ed -- and then throughout PCT as well..

500iu ed for 10 days

looks good besides that.

 

[Who am I]

Just said that I dont whant to split the hcg up. I will take it IM. So when to take the 1500 i.u ``? Have 3 x 1500 iu from organon.

 

[aceofspades]

They can not tell you how to take the 1500iu in 3 shots because that is not the way you should be doing it. You should divide it up for a longer period of time and not take that much at once. It is simple to do and you could run 500iu for 9 days.

 

[blut wump]

500 IU ED for 9 days seems better than 3 x 1500 IU. You can load up slin syringes and keep the unused ones in the fridge. If you really must take the whole 1500 in one shot then I'd suggest E3D starting a week after the last injection. I wouldn't think it ideal, though.

My preferred method would be to get another amp and take 1000IU EOD over ten days (6 shots).

 

[Who am I]

Okay.. I will take 3 x 1500 iu. The first shoot with my last shoot test e. Because otherwise I will overlap indto my pct. So the half-life is 5 days with HCG. Then I am good to go ? I dont whant needles all over my place. And dont like to inject that much maybe I will change my mind in week 5 or so just that I am a little nervous with my first cycle. Thank you guys. I will still frontload.

 

[Who am I]

What happen when I frontload vs. NOT frontloading ?! I know but many newbies in the game take the classic 400mg deca / 500mg test ! This is 4 first cycle when only have trained 2-3 months. So I think its safe. Why not take proviron all through the cycle ? There aint any side effects besides erection all the time It draines you from water (bloat) Has a Anti-e effect. Please need at many comment as I can get startin on Monday.

 

[blut wump]

The best argument I've heard against frontloading is that a large swing in hormone levels is one of the factors most likely to bring on unwanted side effects and stress the body. Taking a large dose on day1 increases the amount that the body is having to cope with as a swing from your normal endogenous production.

I think this is part of the argument in favour of ramping up over the first couple of weeks, too, which most eschew these days so take it with a pinch of salt. I'm not convinced that frontloading will necessarily make you feel that it's kicking in significantly sooner than not frontloading. I've never frontloaded, though, and in these respects, everyone is different.

You can take proviron throughout. Most recommend 50mg ED. I never noticed much 'drying out' from it nor much change in libido either while on. If you need an anti-e then use an anti-e rather than doing it half-heartedly through proviron, although you may well find that proviron is enough for you. Another one of those 'everyone is different' situations. It's usually recommended to drop the proviron during or before pct.

 

[Who am I]

I know that will stop proviron use before I wil do my pct. Think I will try this with frontloading. Many people says its good and others says it make no diffrence. BUT I read an tread with someone explaines that is kick in much faster like 2 weeks insted of 4-5 weeks to get the stabel blood level you need to gain muscle optimal. And if you frontload with 1000 mg the first week it will kick in after only 1 week.

 

[Who am I]

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[blut wump]

I hope you let us know how the first few weeks of the cycle go for you. I'm interested to see whether it does make a difference and whether it makes those first couple of weeks in any way uncomfortable.