1-AD and side effects

[Lumberg]

Snarling Force

The water bloat is from the 4AD. Don't mix up the two supplements. You can't lay all the side effects on 1AD.

1AD dries you up big time. The 4AD converts to test which converts to E. THe only thing 1test and convert to is DHT.

 

[Snarling Force]

Snarling Force

The water bloat is from the 4AD. Don't mix up the two supplements. You can't lay all the side effects on 1AD.

1AD dries you up big time. The 4AD converts to test which converts to E. THe only thing 1test and convert to is DHT.

I hadn't even thought of that. I guess I never really gave much thought to the 4-AD since the 1-AD was the main thing I was taking and that everyone talks about. I got the idea of stacking them from an article I read. I thought stacking these 2 was quite a popular thing to do? A bad idea?

 

[Lumberg]

IMO Stacking them is a great thing to do. The Estrogen keeps your joints supple and is slightly synergistic with the anabolics.

Also it's supposed to keep your sex drive up so I don't know what happened there.

The caveat is the bloating and all the estrogen side effects.

I recently did a short cycle to help recover from an injury and I even added a little bit of androstenedione for a little extra estrogen. I know that sounds weird but my ligaments and tendons really needed it and it worked out well.

 

[al1602]

So we are in agreements that it raises DHT levels and can cause hairloss? So what are the anabolic benefits on the physique?

 

[Lumberg]

Well I was very concerned about hairloss when taking it but I have this freckel right near my hairline so I could watch it exactly and I never had even the hint of extra hairs falling out around there so YMMV. I think that warning is a catch-all.

Anabolic effects are just increased muscle size and strength with zero estrogen.

 

[al1602]

thanks.. who is the best supplier of this and also what about the ones with a blend of different things like 4 andro or 5 andro.. etc., what are your thoughts on that?

 

[Lumberg]

For oral administration 1 AD by ergopharm is the way to go.

For transdermal, ONE by Avantlabs is the way to go.

If you want to stack go for the One+ which had 4 AD. I had a lot of bloating on that one. I think next time I might decrease the dosage of the One+ and substitute some oral 1 AD for it.

 

[Prime Rib]

I have not really taken the time to read all the replies, but I will say something that applies generally and should be taken as good advice.

Every human body is different, and will react different to foreign substances ESPECIALLY prohormones. That being said, while some people may have great success with 1-AD, or any other PH for that matter, do not expect the same results for yourself. Just because Joe Blow lost all his hair, his nuts fell off, and his wife divorced him because of it doesn't mean thats going to happen to you. And just because Jim Blow grew 15 lbs, bench went up 100 lbs, and he fucks like a rabbit doesn't mean you'll be doing the same either.


Just thought i'd throw that in. Cheers gentlemen....


Josh

 

[al1602]

So what is the all time best brand to use? what do you guys use?

 

[Lumberg]

So what is the all time best brand to use? what do you guys use?

I just posted that info.