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1-ad/4-ad cycle

goldbergdaman

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Starting my cycle on Monday, so I thought I should get started on my journal for this in case anyone is interested.

Stats
20 years old
5'9
180

Supplements
400 mg 1-ad (Ergopharm)
600 mg 4-ad (Avant Labs)
Multivitamin
5g Creatine/Day
N-Large II
Lots of Water

Workout Split
Legs
Chest, Biceps
Back
Shoulders,Tris

Dosing Schedule
Breakfast-100 mg 1-ad, about 6 squirts 4-ad
Lunch-100 mg 1-ad
6 o clock-100 mg 1-ad, about 6 squirts 4-ad
Post workout-100 mg 1-ad
Hour before bed-about 6 squirts 4-ad

I think that is about everything. Oh, planning on 4,000 calories/day. I can post my workout and/or diet if anyone is interested in that. If you guys think of anything you wanna know that I left out just lemme know. Thanks for reading guys.
 
Why the 6/6/6/ dosing of 4-ADerm (Avant 4-Diol)? Each application will last for approximately 12 hours, so one dosing come morning, one come evening (about twelve-hours later) would make do (as well would it be easier).
 
Thanks for the tip Dante. I usually get up at 6:30 or so, so I will do one dose then and then another when I get home from school and work at 6:30 at night.
 
Day 1

Weight is 180 this morning. I'll weigh at 6:30 when I wake up from here on out. There's not really that much to report on today since today wasn't a workout day. Got legs tomorrow night. Didn't have any problems with any of the doses, no pain urinating or anything like that. I drank a ton of water today though, so I'll be sure to keep that up. I took my 1-ad with breakfast, lunch and the last one with my meal at 6 pm. Applied the 4-ad at 6:30 when I woke up and then at 6:30 at night. I was hungrier than usual it seemed. I try to eat every 2-3 hours and it seemed I was eating again after 2 hours because I was so hungry. That's really all I have to report on today, nothing exciting, but it's the first day so I didn't expect anything. Im going to keep the dosage at 300 for the next four days or so and then make the decision to either stay or bump it up to 400, so we'll see how the next few days go. I'll post again tomorrow night after my workout.
 
im 20
5'9
170
and i was thinking about the same cycle for myself. keep posting your progress and let me know if its working for you.!
 
Got a quick question for anyone that can help. I put on my second dose of 4-ad at about 6:30 and I usually get to the gym at around 9:30 or 10 on workout days. Is this going to be enough time for the 4-ad to absorb and be effective or should I split that last dose up, taking half at 6:30 and half after I shower after the workout?Thanks guys.
 
Fine that would be, 6:30, the last application made. Several hours as may they pass is time enough for the 4-Diol to absorb, not a worry over water contact (via sweat, swim, or shower). However, you should not scrub the area hard when you bathe (if after 6:30. It would help to shave the area before this second dosing so as to remove the stratum corneum).
 
Day 3

Had to do legs tonite instead of yesterday nite, had a lecture to go to last nite that I had forgot about. Anyways, I've been feeling pretty tired and hungry these past two days. I knew I'd be more hungry, but I didn't think I would be this tired all day. So I've been taking naps whenever I get a chance to help that out. On to tonites workout. Weights were slightly up in pretty much everything. Nothing too drastic. I'm expecting my squat and front squat to go up regardless because I switched from parallel to all the way down about a month ago. I was able to get in a few more sets than I can usually handle though. I'm still at 300/600 for my doses. Havent had any problems with either one of them so far. Only side effects are being hungry and tired. I will weigh tomorrow morning, that will probably determine if I finish out this week at 300 or bump it up to 400 a few days early. Im trying not to expect too much this first week, Ive been counting on this stuff to really kick in next week or maybe this weekend. We'll see how it goes tomorrow. Oh yeah, thanks for answering my question Dante, that was why I had planned on doing 200 x 3 at first but it has been easier to just do it twice a day. Time to go eat,update yall tomorrow.
 
sheriff said:
im on second bottle of 1-ad and i get the tired feeling alot is that a side effect?

Yeah, a lot of people that take it get that tired feeling from what I've read. 4-ad should help you out with that. I havent felt tired today, was even wide awake for my entire 8 o clock this morning, doesnt happen too often :D . So that is encouraging. I guess yours will probably be more prominent since I assume you're taking 1-ad by itself. How is your cycle going so far? Oh yeah, was 183 this morning. Could just be water weight, but always fun to watch the needle go up :D . Today is day 4.
 
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