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It takes a little longer to hit you, but the "buzz" or sleep(depending on why you're taking it) lasts longer. It's the same exact feeling. It's also alot harsher on the body than GHB or GBL, but it's much easier to find. Hope this helps.
 
Peter North...LOL!

Thanks for the info, bro. I hear 3ml is a good dose on an empty stomach for sleep. What's your take on dose?
 
3-3.5ml usually knocks me the f--k out. ive talked to some people that have to take as much as 5-6ml to get to sleep on it. id start out with 2-2.5ml and build up from there to decide what you like. also, if youre using it for a sleep aid, youre gonna have to take it again in the middle of the night. you will wake up almost exactly 4hrs after you take it. strange indeed.
 
I take 5 ml to sleep. 1,4 is harder on your liver, so be careful. I wake up about 6 hours later. You wake up because 1,4 blocks some type of receptor and then you get a sudden rush of dopamines, which have been building up for 6 hours. this is why you feel so good when you wake up. I only take it if I need to get up early and it is really late. This way i can sleep very little and still feel good throughout the day.
 
I can't speak from experience here, because I've never tried either of them. I've just been researching both. Since GBL converts to GHB when you take it, there should be no difference.

Just based on what I've heard, mind you. Let's hear from someone experienced with both GHB and GBL.

-nandroloner
 
I thought 1,4 was different than both GHB and GBL?

I know a good deal about GHB/GBL, but nothing about 1,4. However, your reasoning would seem to be sound for 1,4, as well. If it converts to GHB in the stomach, why would it have different affects?
 
how harmful is 1,4, can it be ttaken nightly for sleep, or will it kill your liver.
also, whats the dosage to use it to party, i heard like 2-3mls, and dilute it in orange juice. what king of effects will it give, is it like getting drunk.
 
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