1,4 butanediol

[greek by injection]

fuc that its great shit if done right, First asses your tolerance mix one cap into a bottle of water. Drink half ofthe bottle on an empty stomach wait 30 minutes. If it begins to kick in wait 10 more if not drink a bt more of the bottle and wait 15 more by now it should feel good. If it still doesnt work finish the bottle. Most people will feel half a cap (about 2.5 ml) to a cap. I averaged 10-12 ml mixed in a bottle for a 4-5 hour night. Mixes very well with uppers like ECA for a nice buzz. Unfortunetl I can't get in anymore but would kill to it may not bepure like ghb but its safer in my mind than gbl cause the ph will ot make you sick I've done all three and gbl is my far the worst day after. Too bad its all so hard to get besides street shit which is expensive and god knows who made it.

First of all I highly recommend not using 1,4 BUTe

Now the thing about assesing your tolerance drinking half the bottle with the G moxed in water is not a good idea b/c you don't know the exact concentration you are ingesting..

BTW a cap (from a 20oz soda) has 7.5ml

using caps to measure G is a bad idea use a syringe

OH YEAH Be Safe....I have seen way to many G-tards

 

[therookie]

[Stay away from 1,4...Its very dangerous, get gbl......TRUST ME...]

this is BS....no proof of this...

Listen pal, do a little research before you blab....Your better off drinking gasoline than GBDO..I have used G for years....1.4 for 2 months and had bile in my stools, pale greasy stools and a gastrointestinal irritation, so i would advise you do a little research b/c any quick search will give you some info on google...

 

[CB38AC]

haha no flaming I swear this shit was Straight from A when he sold it now that he doesn't I can't find it for shit... I can handle it but I am prolactin boy on it so its a trade off and mixed sword

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Amenselah--

The fact is that 1,4 butanediol is metabolized along a different pathway than GHB and GBL, but more importantly, one of the metabolites of 1,4 is ethylene glycol. You have some in your radiator. It is this metabolite that is the culprit for most difficulties on this drug.

CB, the reason that you can take more is because you do not have the liver enzyme that breaks down alcohol in a sufficient amount to efficiently break down 1,4. Same with me. It takes about 5ml of 1,4 to give me an effect I can feel.

Of course, I avoid 1,4 now. I know of its harmful side effects.

As far as 3cc putting someone in a two day coma...I doubt it. There was something else involved, I can guarantee it.

1,4 is a postcursor of GHB, not a precursor. That is why it has additional metabolites. GHB metabolizes into water and CO2. In other words, it has no metabolites. It actually increases the amount of NaDH in the liver, which implies that it IMPROVES liver function.

If you want to do GHB, stick with GHB only.

GBL, being acidic to the degree that it is, will damage your body in fairly short order. The conversion is simple, just do it and be safe.

Again, 1,4 IS harmful to your body, bro. Believe it.

 

[CB38AC]

thats interesting about the enzyme I wonder if its true because i do hold alchohol well almost too well and handle most drugs well not that I am proud of this but I have done things that should have killed a normal person and still been fine and not even that fucked up...I guess some of us are just freaks like that too bad it makes going out so expensive

 

[beefybull]

anybody else have thoughts on this?

It's better on the body to take GHB than GBL, and much better to take GHB compared to 1,4.

GBL becomes GHB in the body, but in doing so, it releases harmful by-products. This is why GHB is safer than GBL.

 

[TraxZBT]

It's better on the body to take GHB than GBL, and much better to take GHB compared to 1,4.

GBL becomes GHB in the body, but in doing so, it releases harmful by-products. This is why GHB is safer than GBL.

CO2 and water are harmful? There has not been any medical study or real world accounts that GBL is harmful to the body. Only thing different between the effects of GBL and GHB is the buzz and withdrawal.

 

[SofaGeorge]

anybody else have thoughts on this?

He's right on the money. 1-4 hit the scene when an idiot misinterpreted scientific data and decided that 1-4 would turn into GHB in your body. It doesn't. (Classic case of what looks right on paper is not right in the body.) He launched it at raves under the name FX... and put about 20 kids in the hospital. If memory serves me right it was the kid who took over Bricker Labs from his dad.

1-4 got a lot of press after this. Funny part is, people didn'ty learn.

 

[Mr_Pusher]

I thought this stuff sucked. I saw no recreational value, only good for sleeping. Just 1-2cc's would turn you into a fucking zombie. Found that dosing it was quite a crapshoot, if you're a bodybuilder you should always have food in your stomach, but food will fuckup the onset of 1,4. I liked GBL much more, worked well for my insomnia. 1,4 was probably more cost effective though, cheaper per liter.

 

[beefybull]

CO2 and water are harmful? There has not been any medical study or real world accounts that GBL is harmful to the body. Only thing different between the effects of GBL and GHB is the buzz and withdrawal.

Fine, dont believe me, just ask Fonz about it sometime.