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rj27

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26 yrs old blood work is about to be done full panel

Im looking for a clinic or place that will let me do blood test and then obtain scripts for test and maybe hgh max. Money is not my problem .. I just want to feel better and i dont have insurance either. Im looking for a online place or anti aging place ..even if its one of the florda places.

pm me thx bros
 
I have never used them, I found:
Jesse William
Consultant
Spectrum Services
Ph: 866.306.8139 ext# 302
Fax: 866.572.1427
Email: [email protected]
Address: 8004 NW 154 St #106
Miami Lakes, FL 33016
 
I recommend using Google. Type in anti aging and your city. You'll find Drs. listed. Look for those affiliated with hospitals and who file insurance claims.

Another approach is to visit a large compound pharmacy in your locale. Ask for Drs who are submitting testo scripts. My Dr fit all the above.
 
jungle4321 said:
What kind of doses has "tharc" put all of you on?
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They will have your hormone levels tested and adjust accordingly - on the high end typically. You will go on BHRT for a pre determined amount of time (10 weeks or so) and then take a few weeks off and have more blood work done. They use bio identical hormones rather than synthetic so it is more custom to what you need. You can also be completely honest about any steroid use - they are used to it.
 
ironwings said:
They will have your hormone levels tested and adjust accordingly - on the high end typically. You will go on BHRT for a pre determined amount of time (10 weeks or so) and then take a few weeks off and have more blood work done. They use bio identical hormones rather than synthetic so it is more custom to what you need. You can also be completely honest about any steroid use - they are used to it.
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so the prescribe just test? what kind?
 
They should all offer all types of test and other things too like deca, GH etc...
 
They will look at your hormone panel and determine where you need a little boost. Typically it is Test, HGH, and DHEA. There is no "kind" they are bioidentical so that means they are just like your natural hormones that you produce in your body. Typically they come from animals. Regular hormone replacement therapy is where you get into what "kind" they prescribe. You don't want that. You want the real deal.

Now, they aren't going to prescribe enough test like you would get from doing a cycle! But, you will be amazed at how good you feel.
 
ironwings said:
There is no "kind" they are bioidentical so that means they are just like your natural hormones that you produce in your body. Typically they come from animals. Regular hormone replacement therapy is where you get into what "kind" they prescribe. You don't want that. You want the real deal.
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This has really peaked my interest! I would like to have a further discussion as to the pros/cons of bioidentical vs. synthetic.
I would like to say I have not done any research on the subjuct so am very ignorant at this point!
 
I personally do not take either but have been researching them for some time. BHRT is seen to be "safer" because it is a natural substance just like the molecular structure of your existing hormones. It is also prescribed based on raising your current hormone levels to optimal levels and compounded specifically for you. However, because they are a natural substance pharmaceutical companies cannot patent them, therefore can't make any money from them. This contributes to very little research on the effects of BHRT. It is assumed and the little research that has been done shows these as a safer option (not as high a risk of cancer etc.). My take on this is because you are given the exact amount your body can handle - nothing more which you may be getting with HRT. Also, with BHRT you are monitored pretty closely by your physician and bloodwork is taken often and doses adjusted accordingly.

With HRT you can go to your doctor, tell him you have decreased sex drive and you'll probably walk out with Viagra if you are under 45 and if you are over you'll probably walk out with a brand name testosterone that is a one size fits all and viagra. They are not compounded in a pharmacy to meet the specific needs of a patient but rather come pre-compounded and given as a one size fits all solution. There is tons of research on them so you could certainly be well read on the subject and be comfortable with knowing the risks. Just know that you will be given a pill, cream or whatever and never looked on again. I'm sure you have heard men and women talk about "when should I go off HRT?" I can't believe people don't take more control over their own health and get educated on the topic. A doctor should be monitoring there levels and it should be a decision based on facts, not emotions. Geez. We have men and women out there just going off HRT when they feel like it. It isn't a drug to just get you through meno or andropause. It is for vitality.
 
ironwings said:
It is also prescribed based on raising your current hormone levels to optimal levels and compounded specifically for you. So is HRT
My take on this is because you are given the exact amount your body can handle - nothing more which you may be getting with HRT. How can they give you the exact amount? The amount they give is based on tests just like HRT. Sounds like you had a good sales person with very little honor.
Also, with BHRT you are monitored pretty closely by your physician and bloodwork is taken often and doses adjusted accordingly. That is why you are monitored because in medicine as in life nothing is perfect!

With HRT you can go to your doctor, tell him you have decreased sex drive and you'll probably walk out with Viagra if you are under 45 and if you are over you'll probably walk out with a brand name testosterone that is a one size fits all and viagra. ??? Not the HRT clinic that I found, nor my new GP that I have locally!They are not compounded in a pharmacy to meet the specific needs Specific needs? I am not trying to insult you personally but that is one hell of a sales pitch! of a patient but rather come pre-compounded and given as a one size fits all solution. There is tons of research on them so you could certainly be well read on the subject and be comfortable with knowing the risks. Just know that you will be given a pill, cream or whatever and never looked on again. Not true, and now you are shadding things.

I'm sure you have heard men and women talk about "when should I go off HRT?" No one I know of has ever asked this as everyone I know understands it's for life and the reason we are on HRT is due to conditions that are not currently mediacally repairable.

I can't believe people don't take more control over their own health and get educated on the topic. Again I don't know anyone like this? A doctor should be monitoring there levels and it should be a decision based on facts, not emotions. Geez. I agree completely and even before anyone does any AAS they should have more than one full blood panel done so they will no what normal is because they will never remember what normal WAS!!! We have men and women out there just going off HRT when they feel like it. It isn't a drug to just get you through meno or andropause. It is for vitality.
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Well actually if for medal reasons. Due to our bodies inability to produce what it should be producing.

I have been on HRT for 2 years. Don't take offense to this but I think that you are over grandiosizing (sure I just made that up) the bio-identical treatment vs synthetic testosterone. Not say that one isn't better for you than another, however your statement that it is one size fits all from a pharmacutical company is laughable. Its the Dr's job to prescribe an amount that is required for an individual. And it's the individuals job to ensure he gets regular visits to the Dr. For one thing if the Dr. gives you a script for say 100mg/week of test that is based on his historical knowledge of what elevation the test will be brought up to. That is not a one size fits all dose. Then in 3 months when the compound has been in the body more tests are done to see if more or less is needed. Again that is not one size fits all.
So please, lets keep the discussion to the drug and not about how poor some dr.s practice medicine or how some people don't follow the Dr.'s recomendations.
Yes this you hit a nerve and I hope I did not offend you!
 
I'm not here to argue. Nor be offended. There is no possible way to be offended over someone's opinion, unless your ego gets in the way. That's what makes the world tick. Mine is based on personal experience in the field, yours is based on using HRT. I think its great to share what your experience is.

Anyone care to comment if using BHRT?
 
ironwings said:
I'm not here to argue. Nor be offended. There is no possible way to be offended over someone's opinion, unless your ego gets in the way. That's what makes the world tick. Mine is based on personal experience in the field, yours is based on using HRT. I think its great to share what your experience is.

Anyone care to comment if using BHRT?
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That is cool and I respect your opinion as well! I hope I was clear and not derogatory.
You say your exp. is based on personal exp. in the field, do you work for a BHRT?
 
Let's remember the context of this thread - the guy is 26. He may not feel his best but he certainly isn't hurting for any hormone replacement. A physician outside an anti-aging clinic would laugh him off the premises, unfortunately. He is really looking for a legal script to bring his levels to optimal performance. And perhaps a little HGH to aid in muscle growth, recovery, and anti-aging. He isn't alone.

I am a fitness coach and work with clients, specifically men, on this topic all the time. It is my job to see both sides and know the research that is founded on science.

The great appeal of bioidentical hormones is that they are natural, and our bodies can metabolize them as it was designed to do, minimizing side effects. Synthetic hormones are quite strong and often produce intolerable side effects. As well, bioidentical hormones are compounded to match individual needs — something that’s impossible with mass produced products (synthetic hormones). Watch the pharmacist next time you have your HRT refilled. They won't be mixing a thing.

The con to bioidentical hormones is that there is little research on the matter - it is all theory (this is why clinical doctors won't prescribe them). Synthetic hormones have been proven and the sides are well noted.
 
They gave me my BHRT protocol as follows:

300mg test per week (150mg Monday @ 6:00pm and 150mg Friday @ 6:00am)

HCG 1000iu per week (500iu Sunday @ 6:00pm and 500iu Thursday @ 6:00am)

3mg Arimidex per week (1mg Monday @ 6:00pm, 1mg Wednesday night @ midnight, and 1mg Friday @ 6:00am)

This type of injection/dosing protocol will prevent "hormonal spikes" and give me a more steady balance of all of my hormones through the week.
 
heavydutyhit said:
They gave me my BHRT protocol as follows:

300mg test per week (150mg Monday @ 6:00pm and 150mg Friday @ 6:00am)

HCG 1000iu per week (500iu Sunday @ 6:00pm and 500iu Thursday @ 6:00am)

3mg Arimidex per week (1mg Monday @ 6:00pm, 1mg Wednesday night @ midnight, and 1mg Friday @ 6:00am)

This type of injection/dosing protocol will prevent "hormonal spikes" and give me a more steady balance of all of my hormones through the week.
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What type of test did they give you? And do you pay yourself or go through insurance?
 
RJ, I used optimum health out of fla. they charged $640 for 20cc test cyp, 20 IU's hcg, 24 Arimidex tabs, and all the syringes I would need. I had my own blood work before I went to them. this is supposed to last 6 months at about 160mg/week of the test with a break worked in - I still don't know the purpose of the break. they were really pushing hgh but it was out of my cost realm and i don;'t know if my blood work would have qulified anyway. A selling point for them for me was that they are members in good staning of the better business burea (I looked them up at the bbb website.)
 
heavydutyhit said:
They gave me my BHRT protocol as follows:

300mg test per week (150mg Monday @ 6:00pm and 150mg Friday @ 6:00am)

HCG 1000iu per week (500iu Sunday @ 6:00pm and 500iu Thursday @ 6:00am)

3mg Arimidex per week (1mg Monday @ 6:00pm, 1mg Wednesday night @ midnight, and 1mg Friday @ 6:00am)

This type of injection/dosing protocol will prevent "hormonal spikes" and give me a more steady balance of all of my hormones through the week.
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So, how do you feel with this protocol? How long have you been on it?
 
I have a friend who is a compounding pharmacist and he explained to me the only difference between bio test is the salt ester added to regular test (enethate cypionate) you have to do bio test daily in the form of creams.We all know what a pain rubbing these low dose creams are.
 
I feel great. I know the 300 seems high, but my test levels were 99. Yes...., 99. I feel a lot better. The first month was weird. My blood pressure went up and my heart was palpitating. Did some research and I had been with low test levels for so long my body had to readjust. Started doing a bit of cardio, cleaned up my diet and by week 6 bp was stabilized. Been on this for about 14 weeks with no adverse sides at all. Just feel great, my mental thought processes are a lot smoother, and I am finally making muscle gains again.
 
heavydutyhit said:
I feel great. I know the 300 seems high, but my test levels were 99. Yes...., 99. I feel a lot better. The first month was weird. My blood pressure went up and my heart was palpitating. Did some research and I had been with low test levels for so long my body had to readjust. Started doing a bit of cardio, cleaned up my diet and by week 6 bp was stabilized. Been on this for about 14 weeks with no adverse sides at all. Just feel great, my mental thought processes are a lot smoother, and I am finally making muscle gains again.
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Sounds sweet. Have you had your levels checked since you've been on this protocol? According to a Test E dose/week chart I have, 300mg/week ought to put you in like the 1700-1800ng/dL range.

srczm
 
sarcazmo said:
Sounds sweet. Have you had your levels checked since you've been on this protocol? According to a Test E dose/week chart I have, 300mg/week ought to put you in like the 1700-1800ng/dL range.

srczm
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I was scheduled to get my blood work done 5 weeks ago. Unfortunately I have been battling a bad case of bronchitis for just over a month now. I didn't want to get blood work done when my sleep pattern, caloric intake, macro-nutrient ratios, and training were FUBAR.

It may sound silly, but I know my cholesterol and triglycerides would be way off with the way I was eating while sick. I really want to know how my current macro-nutrient breakdown affects those levels. So now that I have a week in of training, sleeping, and dieting, I am getting my blood work done tomorrow. It may take a few days to get the results due to the weekend, but I will keep you posted.

P.S. I as well am interested in this chart you have. If you can't post it, might you refer us to where we may get ourselves a copy?
 
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