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The END of ALL Cycle Problems!!!

This board used to be so much more, less advertising, better discussion,and people were not censored or banned for having opinions that went ag ainst products of sponsors.I fear we are moving towards testosterone nation and it saddens me greatly.

please point me to one single person this has happen too? Please explain one time to me please and thank you? I am waiting.

See this is when people get banned. When they start making false claims. Now I am going to ask you to post up once single shred of evidence (link to it and explain) where this may have happen.

Besides the emporor who is learning to be a mod here and made a few mistakes in this thread. Which I came back and correct for him. Thank you.


NO ONE HAS EVER OR WILL EVER GET BANNED for having a opposing opinion


That has never been a reason why anyone has ever been banned. It is when some one starts "attacking" other people. In some kind of a manner.

SO here we are in this thread and you and another have opposing opinions.. IS anyone getting banned??? NO!

Some one did have a few post deleted but that was a mistake by EMp who again is just now starting to learn how to mod over in the aas section. I un deleted the post, and made a public apology for it. Newer mods should be allowed some mistakes I think...

Now we run a clean board free of flaming and completely open to opposing opinions and debate. As you can see from now one getting banned in this thread and the inability of anyone in this thread being able to come up with one single time some one has been banned for this reason..

Scream it all you want but it never happens and if it has then show me. I will gladly un ban that person and publicly say I am sorry to that person on behalf of the entire staff of the site.

Every couple of months some one comes along and sais "well a year ago the site was like this" and then 6 months down the rode some one else says the same thing. Then 4 years from now some one else says the same thing.

There is more information to be had on ef now then ever and the database of info just keeps growing and growing and growing every single day. Even in this very thread there is the chance to learn so many things I cant even count them all.

All it takes is for some one to ask a question.. See opposing opinions are a good thing in case you did not know this. I know this because I know opposing opinions mean more post, more post means more views, more views means this thread rises up up up the google ranks .. And some one may learn something if they ask a few questions
 
From a personal point of view i have learned more in the last month on EF and NTBM than in the last few years from people in gyms or magazines. There r a lot of helpful bros on here.
On the cost of supps,living in Ireland I find it cheaper to buy in the US and ship than the UK,especially with discounts ;-D
 
Hit me up too!!!:chomp: And yeah im from africa so then there is an extra $25 but im honestly considering it.. it somes out to like R700 which is almost the same as animal pack.. So animal pac vs N2... I guess its N2

I just gave you a free plat bro.. NOw what I advice for peeps in countries over seas is this. I charge 25.00 for shipping. But that 25.00 never changes no matter how much you order. YOu can order 400lb of product and I will still noly charge you 25.00 and that is it.

Right now with the code clearance20 you can get the product for 20% off plus buy 3 get one free, about 31.00 a unit and if you add the shipoing cost for you its back up to only 37.00 a unit if you buy 3 units right now using the clearance20 code. So for 37.00 a bottle right now anyone anywhere in the world can get N2guard for 37.00 a unit outside of the usa or 31 a unit inside the usa. Just use the discount code Clarence20 and buy 3 bottles at 20% off and the 4th is free. 4 bottles is plenty enough to last you through even the longest steroid cycle.

You mite as well take advantage of the fact that you only pay 25.00 no matter how much you order and order as many product as you need all at once. By a couple 5lb bags of protein we sell them cheap. :biggrin:
 
From a personal point of view i have learned more in the last month on EF and NTBM than in the last few years from people in gyms or magazines. There r a lot of helpful bros on here.
On the cost of supps,living in Ireland I find it cheaper to buy in the US and ship than the UK,especially with discounts ;-D

That's what I love to hear. Do a search on your favorite members and you'll find a goldmine of information.
 
Awww. How can I stay mad at you, Need2?

You are a gentleman, and a man of science.

I got out of the wrong side of the bed today, normally this sort of thing wouldn't wind me up.
Lack of sleep + aching shoulder + mild roid rage = zorrin rant. I'm going over here now, to stand in the corner and think about what happenned here today.

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: I am the guy Ya love.. Nelsons the Guy ya love to hate :evil::evil: HAr har just messing with ya nelson
 
Just wanna say FUCKING SWEET. Thanks alot for the free plat that was awesome. Now i jst got this plat and dont wanna make any problems but that time nelson and tical i think it was argued over the use of clomid/nolva you "guys" banned him. Honestly it was a "heated" argument but i dont think anybody was ever out of line they both expressed their feelings and opinions excellently it was like a well thought out debate. For me it was so interesting as i always thought nolva/clomid was okay then came along your products then people like them. So that debate helped bring points out the products in general. The public could of decided for himself i dont think it solicited a ban. Once again my opinion so i cant get ban:biggrin:
 
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In a way, this may cut down of the conversations we have here. But it HAS to be said.

99% of all cycle problems can be avoided with just some basic precautions.


So here's the deal...


DO NOT begin a cycle without these components in place.

1: All the gear you're going to use.

2: All the anciliaries you need while on, for OCT, and afterward.

Now that isn't so fucking hard, is it?

Yet, time and time and time again, we see people forgetting these simple rules.

And another thing...

If you experience side effects, the FIRST thing you should do is cut back on the dosage! Stiop looking for more drugs to fix the problems occured by other drugs.

And in case you haven't heard, using deca and tren are harder to recover from (for several reasons). If you choose to use them, expect a rougher recovery.

If you're prone to gyno, avoid aromatizing compunds. If you don't know what compounds aromatize, LEARN. This isn't like learning a language where you pick up as you go along. It's more like skydiving -- you better know what you have to do before you jump!

And it's been mentioned many times before but I want to make a point to those who may not have around too long. You MUST protect against as many on the contraindications of steroids while on cycle. You NEED to do it, for your health, you NEED to do to for the best gains, you NEED to do it to assure the effectiveness of future cycles. You NEED to guard yourself. Remember that.

This is where I have to do a little promotion, but stick with me. You won't regret it.

All you need to do is rememeber what you need to do. One product. The name even tells you "NEED to guard" -- N2GUARD for short. You can avoid most every problem you encounter while on cycle with this one simple product.

Steroids cause...N2protects....

Water retention-- check!

Elevated cholesterol -- check!

Strain on the liver -- check!

Hypertension -- check!

Increased demand for cellular repair -- check!

And just as a kicker, there are ingredients to help repair and upregulate receptor site acceptance, which not only makes the cycle more effective, it helps the NEXT cycle to be even better! (Follow with BRIDGE for best results).

I mean...WHAT THE FUCK?!!! Can this be made any easier??? NOT using it is just stupid.

For pennies a day, you avoid problems that have plagued steroid users for decades.

Obviously, you won't find this at your local GNC. This is for hardcore bodybuilders.

So that's it. Obviously, we still encourage learning as much as you can about how to cycle for the best results. It's a combination of knowledge, experience, asking questions, training, supplementation,. pharmacology and common sense. And a lot of busting ass in the gym.

Hey, excellence don't come easy. But it's worth it.

So that's it. If anyone has any questions, there's a bunch of good bros right here on EF willing to help. We all make mistakes, but this one is unforgivable. Place an order. Pop a couple of pills. DONE.

N2GUARD: It's the easiest thing you'll ever do to get bigger.

I agree about Tren amd Deca - very bad shutsown using those, I never use em now and as a result Im recovering better from cycles.
 
Just wanna say FUCKING SWEET. Thanks alot for the free plat that was awesome. Now i jst got this plat and dont wanna make any problems but that time nelson and tical i think it was argued over the use of clomid/nolva you "guys" banned him. Honestly it was a "heated" argument but i dont think anybody was ever out of line they both expressed their feelings and opinions excellently it was like a well thought out debate. For me it was so interesting as i always thought nolva/clomid was okay then came along your products then people like them. So that debate helped bring points out the products in general. The public could of decided for himself i dont think it solicited a ban. Once again my opinion so i cant get ban:biggrin:

Just to set the record straight. (In case there's any doubt about how this stuff works).

That COULD have been exciting and worthwhile (even though the argument has been made many times before which is why, admittedly, my patience wore thin). The problem there was that tical stopped debating and just started taunting.

Expressions like "you don't know what you're talking about" or "if you had a brain" or "stop lying to the members" are rude, insulting and outright inflamatory and will not be tolerated. To top it off, tical then posted under several alters just to compound the dissension. That's when it stopped being a debate and just became antagonism. He was warned. And warned again. He basically said "go f- yourself." Hence, he was gone.

It was the right move.

That's how we roll. We love debate, confrontation, even a little sparring now and then. It's encouraged Expletives are fine. A well placed jab appreciated. But mindless attacks do not fly. Never will.

I think we can all live with that.
 
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