Treating symptoms, not the numbers

[hannes joubert]

Hi All...

Right, I understand that there are fairly wide ranges concerning dosages/week concerning pinning with Test E to combat low test.

Ranges from 100mg to 400mg. I am a fairly large (albeit fat) 260lbs. BF% would change once I have my Test levels sorted, now I want to know should I rather pin closer to 400mg/week, or 100mg/week? As I said, I want to treat the symptoms and not the numbers....Also, what guage needle should I use for the oil?

Also, I understand the need for HCG, but I am at a loss for how to use it?? I can obtain 5000IU - 2ml. So how much do I use? Where do I pin it and with what? (I understand twice a week on days 5&6 if pinning gear 1ce a week, but when do I pin the HCG if I am pinning the gear every 3.5days?)

Any senior guys?

Thanks

H

 

[Zyglamail]

Many trt clinics recommend dosing for test at 2x a week. Take HCG at 250IU 2 days before and then the day before just one of your 2 weekly test injections.

How much test you need depends on your symptoms and how you respond to it. You shouldnt fly blind if you looking to be on trt from now till the end of time, the goal is to find a test level that doesnt throw your BP or blood test numbers out of whack.

 

[hannes joubert]

Many trt clinics recommend dosing for test at 2x a week. Take HCG at 250IU 2 days before and then the day before just one of your 2 weekly test injections.

How much test you need depends on your symptoms and how you respond to it. You shouldnt fly blind if you looking to be on trt from now till the end of time, the goal is to find a test level that doesnt throw your BP or blood test numbers out of whack.

Hi Zyglmail, many thanks for the reply.

I would like to confirm that I understand you correctly concerning the hCG... One injection of 250Iu before starting the TRT, and from then on, one injection a week, the day before a Test injection, continuously? Where do I inject the hCG? And, how much is 250Iu, 0.1ml?

I managed to source Test E @ 300mg/ml, will see about the dosages @2xweek, if it is to difficult to split, perhaps I'll do 0.5ml week (giving 150mg/week)

May I post the progress once starting on the TRT?

Thanks again for all the help & advice...

Cheers

H

 

[caribeman]

hannes, actually it states 2 HCG shots prior to your test shot. So for example if you were to shoot your Test on Monday, you would do 250iu Saturday and 250iu Sunday (prior to the test shot). You can go to youtube and search HCG, plenty of videos there for your reference (easier seen than explained sometimes

If you decided on 300mgs per week of test, you can do 2 shots per week of 1.5ml ea shot. Example shoot on Monday and Thursday.

If I were you, I would keep a log as this can help you as a refence on how you feel, gains, etc.

 

[hannes joubert]

hannes, actually it states 2 HCG shots prior to your test shot. So for example if you were to shoot your Test on Monday, you would do 250iu Saturday and 250iu Sunday (prior to the test shot). You can go to youtube and search HCG, plenty of videos there for your reference (easier seen than explained sometimes

If you decided on 300mgs per week of test, you can do 2 shots per week of 1.5ml ea shot. Example shoot on Monday and Thursday.

If I were you, I would keep a log as this can help you as a refence on how you feel, gains, etc.

Hi Caribeman, thanks for the reply...

Okay, so shots on Sat & Sun (hCG), Test on Monday and Thurs? If my Test is 300mg/ml, then .5ml Monday & .5ml Thurs will give me 300mg/week correct?

Will definately keep a journal/log, and update on this site, if that is okay with the mods?

Thanks again for patience and advice..

Cheers

H

 

[XMAN.]

Hi Caribeman, thanks for the reply...

Okay, so shots on Sat & Sun (hCG), Test on Monday and Thurs? If my Test is 300mg/ml, then .5ml Monday & .5ml Thurs will give me 300mg/week correct?

Will definately keep a journal/log, and update on this site, if that is okay with the mods?

Thanks again for patience and advice..

Cheers

H

sounds good , just keep an AI on hand in case of estro buildup , and sure we'll be happy if u post a journal/log here on EF that's the purpose of this site to share and learn from each other, the mods are always available to help u anytime , only great guys over here on EF i think Zyglamail will assist u on that for sure.
good luck bro

 

[Zyglamail]

Hi Caribeman, thanks for the reply...

Okay, so shots on Sat & Sun (hCG), Test on Monday and Thurs? If my Test is 300mg/ml, then .5ml Monday & .5ml Thurs will give me 300mg/week correct?

Will definately keep a journal/log, and update on this site, if that is okay with the mods?

Thanks again for patience and advice..

Cheers

H

correct, if your test is 300mg/ml and you want to do 300mg/week, the pick two days of the week to shoot on and try and stick to em, mon & thurs, wed & sat etc. Do 1/2 a ML or CC each time to get 150mg of test.

 

[hannes joubert]

sounds good , just keep an AI on hand in case of estro buildup , and sure we'll be happy if u post a journal/log here on EF that's the purpose of this site to share and learn from each other, the mods are always available to help u anytime , only great guys over here on EF i think Zyglamail will assist u on that for sure.
good luck bro

Hi there, thanks everyone for the advice and help to keep me on track.

Is an AI the same as an anti estrogen? Can I use Letrozole as per the latest article by George Spellwin? Will this accomplish the same ends?

Thanks again...

H

 

[Zyglamail]

Yes, letrozole is in the same class of anti-E as arimidex. Some find it works better for them than anastrozole. How much to take really will kind of depend on your existing E levels, if they are high, which generally they are on people who carry more bodyfat, then an anti-e say 3x a week is probably a good idea.

 

[rockdoc]

Take HCG at 250IU 2 days before and then the day before just one of your 2 weekly test injections.

Is this HCG protocol something that can be done indefinetly or does it need to be cycled?