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MikeScott

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26, 6'1 190lbs 13-15%bf lifting for about 7 years, 3 years steady.
Did dbol, deca, test, var, beastdrol cycles before. Just starting to learn more about them used to be young and stupid and listen to poor advice.

I want to just make lean gains, no pie or moon face side effects. I work a job where I can't have people to look at me and say "he's on the juice". yes i know sometimes I shouldn't care but for my job I have to. Please I'm not looking for "well don't do it" or any sarcastic answers. Just some suggestions of a cycle I can use, to increase my lean body mass and lower my bf%. Looking for something around a 4-8 week cycle, nothing too long.
 
welcome to ef

8 week cutting cycle.
1-8 test prop 150mg eod
1-8 masteron 300mgs a week
1-8 tren 50mg eod

that should do the trick as far as the cycle goes
 
I would just drop the masteron and use tren a at 75 eod... use hcg last 2 weeks of cycle and 1 week after your last shot- around 250iu ed for 20 straight days, then start clomid 50mg day 9-10 days after your last shot for 4 weeks, you can use some d-aspartic acid or other supps to help as well.
 
clomid is old school and crape,keep the masteron..for pct look into,hcg gen,forma stanzol,some serms-s4,unleashed,postcycle and then take bridge after that

for one cycle support need2guard

all sold at needtobulidmuscle.net

forma stanzol is sold at mrsupps.com

if i misspell thigns my bad..i am outside on my porch stealing someones internet aand cant see to good
 
He will get next to nothing out of masteron, it is really only for contest prep and his bf is not low enough.

None of the supps you have mentioned have ever been shown to restore the HPTA like hcg plus serms do. If you want to add something in as extra that's fine but c'mon you need some proven pharms in there.
 
Ok, Hello I am new to this forum, in fact it is my first. I have been experimenting with anabolic steroids for a little bit on and off and I don't seem to be making good enough gains (in my opinion)
I am 175lbs, 5 feet eight inches tall and I am a fairly cut individual, with not much body fat at all.

I started with Test Sustanon as a starter cycle with Dbols
I was taking 500 mg of Test Sustanon each week with about 50 mg of Dbol daily
Approx a month later I started tren with my test continuing to take 500mg of test sust a week and 200mg a week of tren eth
My second cycle I used the same test sustanon taking 500mg a week and 200mg of deca
After approx 2 months of deca I switch to Test eth/socaproate 400 blend, and tren eth
This was my most recent switch where I was taking:
1ml of test eth/soca twice a week at 400mg/ml with 1mg of tren eth twice a week at 200mg/ml
I noticed tons of sweating but not really a bulking affect, I shedded alot of weight and it took alot of time to see only minimal games
I was using Olympic Pharma and now I have switched over to Svenske Apotech and am looking to bulk up fast and effectively.

I just invested in some Test cyp 250mg/ml and deca 300mg/ml
My question is...

What would be a recommended dosage now, for both test and deca weekly?
At first I was thinking 3ml (750mg) of test cyp. and 2ml (600mg) of deca weekly
Is this a bad idea?

NEEEEEED somee good advice!

Thanks!!
 
endojuicedr said:
He will get next to nothing out of masteron, it is really only for contest prep and his bf is not low enough.

None of the supps you have mentioned have ever been shown to restore the HPTA like hcg plus serms do. If you want to add something in as extra that's fine but c'mon you need some proven pharms in there.
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Thats BS you dont have to be under 10% to see the effects of masteron at all. Its a myth!
 
Here's some posts from a recent thread I agree with:


"Masteron. Didn't notice much from it except hair loss. I'm not even prone to male pattern baldness."


"Been telling guys this for years. Precontest drug only for the last 4 weeks. Helps dial in a grainy hard look. As your lowering dosages to get ready this drug is a finishing touch. People come to me all the time saying there going to use Masteron to bulk on. The get all giddy about the size and strength gains they are anticipating from a drug that starts with "Mass" in it's name. "

"I would say Masteron was one of the most worthless compounds I have used. I used it more than once, thinking the first time I had bunk Masteron...nope...nothing. A waste of good receptors that could be used up by Tren."

"Masteron blows. Not as good as tren acetate and costs more too. Extremely overhyped product. Stick to tren over masteron anyday"



This is only from the first couple of pages in the thread, there were many more comments like this. I think mast has it's place, just not in this cycle.
 
Endojuicer say what you want about mast but dont give false information why bring up what some random guy said about it on a board have you eveb taken it?. Im on masteron as we speak its my first run and I was bulking, I started my cutting phase with masteron and within a week i dropeed 4lbs of water and hardended up EVERYWHERE. I would go as far as saying I wouldnt cycle again without it! Granted tren gives you good results but with fucked up side effects whch completely outweigh the good! Masteron makes me feel and look amazing drop water and bodyfat. end of discussion
 
endo for the most part,everyone here KNOWS masteron is not a mass drug,if they think its a mass drug they didnt reasearch,and everyone uses it for the hardening effect,says what u want,masteron does make a differnce,got so many bros here that will vouch for it
 
cycle looks good but the EOD sucks. I'm not scared of needles but I don't enjoy them by any means. twice a week is usually my limit. any types of cutters I can use that would just be twice a week? i dont want to be bloated or have moon face remember. just get a good cut, and some lean mass
 
downunder hunter said:
Endojuicer say what you want about mast but dont give false information why bring up what some random guy said about it on a board have you eveb taken it?. Im on masteron as we speak its my first run and I was bulking, I started my cutting phase with masteron and within a week i dropeed 4lbs of water and hardended up EVERYWHERE. I would go as far as saying I wouldnt cycle again without it! Granted tren gives you good results but with fucked up side effects whch completely outweigh the good! Masteron makes me feel and look amazing drop water and bodyfat. end of discussion
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Lol don't you realize that when you stopped the bulking phase you would've lost all that water anyway? It had nothing to do with the masteron, I'm sure mast might've helped make you harder and kept your strength but tren would've done this better. Alot of people don't have bad sides from tren, it's an individual thing.
 
tren plus masteron is better..or tren and winstrol but i hate winstrol..man u need to go back and learn some things,read up..the water weight u lose after a cycle,is exactly that water weight.wiht masteron added,u dont have as much water weight,at least i dont.
 
Please tell me one thing that I need to learn that you already know? Of course you don't have as much water when running masteron with aromatizing compounds, its DHT based! You can do that with an AI though.
 
endojuicedr said:
Please tell me one thing that I need to learn that you already know? Of course you don't have as much water when running masteron with aromatizing compounds, its DHT based! You can do that with an AI though.
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Look ive ran enough tren cycles and run AI's enough to know the difference, the effects of masteron are undeniable :o
 
thatbloke said:
masterons great

ive seen so much misconception about the drug

some guys try use it wen they bulk and wonder why it doesnt work, maybe becoz its not a bulking agent?

others try cut up with it and say they dont notice anything, ive seen this happen many of times and it generally the guy whos 16%bf, masterons effects just aent pronouned if ur BF% is high since u missout or cant notice its harening effects and ability to lower water retention

ive seen many guys for and against masteron, GENERALLY or i should say ALWAYS the guys who are already lean and add in masteron LOVE the drugs effects since there very pronounced and clear

for those higher bf% guys no matter wat they do masteron just doesnt seem to work the way its expected to

however i will agree masteron is very hard on the hairline, so if you going to go bald, your going to go bald a hell alot faster once uve used masteron
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This was all I was saying. The OP said his bf was around 14% and we all know that alot of people estimate body fat to be lower than it is.
 
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