My Peptide cycle. Fire burn and cauldron bubble!

[remember_me?]

Double, double toil and trouble. I've done my research and here is the experimental 6 week Peptide Cycle I'll be starting next week. All it needs is a little fine tuning so please chime in if you think I should add the eye of newt before the toe of frog (or vice versa).

My Stats
32 5'9 170lbs 8%bf I've always been highly receptive to and a fan of low doses.

Peptide Cycle
GHRP -6 @ 150mcg ED (morn + post workout)
MOD GRF 1-29 at .5mg per week
IGF -1 Ec (MGF) @ 100mcg twice a week (what time of day?)
IGF -1 Lr3 @ 100mcg 4 times a week after training (IGF-LR3 at 50mcg/day right after workouts into the muscle worked)

SarmS4 - 40mg/day
EndoAmp - 1/3 rec dose daily

PCT
Test Rec Stack - 1/2 rec daily dosage until completion but full dosage of EndoAmp (Endo Amp, Sustain Alpha, Toco 8)
Dostine x - .25mg every 4 days for 4 weeks then .25mg every 2.5 days
SarmS4 - 40mg/day

Other
naNo Vapor - 1/2 dose pre-workout
Intravol - 1/2 dose during workout
Wheybolix Extreme 60 Protein - post workout
B-complex - daily
Omega 3 - daily
Semenax - one pill daily
Saw Palmetto - 3 times a year take 450mg daily for 14 days
Milk Thistle - daily
H20 - some people need to be reminded to drink a lot of it morning day and night

Peptide Administration
Dose 1: morning
Dose GHRP-6 (and GRF 129 if its the day to do so).
Optional a. dose them fasted, wait 1 hour then do your morning fasted cardio to ensure the FFA's are being released. insulin inhibits the lipolysis created by the GH pulse.
Optional b. stay fasted for 1-2 hours post cardio for increased lipolysys. keep insulin quiet via no carb intake. no ingestion of fats during that time period. ingested fats will compete with the FFA's to be burned
Dose 2: post-workout
Take the peptides, wait 20 minutes, take igfs... then eat.

Notes
Peptides
wait 30-45 minutes after eating fats/carbs before you dose
wait at least 20 minutes after dosing to eat
(fats and carbs will inhibit the GH pulse/release)

IGF -1
Using IGF-1 subQ pre-workout as a glucose disposal agent will give pumps. BUT doing so (subQ) will put the peptide systemic (instead of local in muscle) and it will attach to the closet receptors (intestines). A very wise man once told me I needTo stay away from anything that can kill me, and the risk of cancer growth with IGF-1 is mostly due to having the it systemic. So, if I'm to use this than into the muscle is a better idea.

Research indicates IGF-1 is the only thing that can fuse myoblasts into existing muscle cells or together to form new muscle cells. This is best achieved in an immediate post-workout, intramuscular, local administration.

EndoAmp
contains L Alpha Glyceryphosphorychlorine helps body use more and create more of its own GH

GHRP- 6
Studies in young men demonstrate that they respond very well to GHRP-6 in terms of creating a GH pulse of high amplitude. When you stop using GHRP-6 you will continue to experience a declining portion of the benefit for at least the next few weeks (study subjects: older adults). Eventually you will resume your age-appropriate "natural" GH release pattern. There will be no suppression induced by GHRP-6 but desensitization possible above 250mcg per dose.

MOD GRF 129 and not CJC1295
CJC1295 dosent make a pulse, and pulsation is what you want.

This is the best I could put together. I'm no expert so I'm sure there is something missing or incorrect above. Do I need to use Huperzine A or any other somatostatin inhibitor during this cycle? Can anyone recommend anything else during this cycle or in my PCT? I realize part of my PCT regimine will recover/boost my Test levels. Interestingly the goal of the peptide cycle itself is to the exact same thing but to my GH levels. What I'm trying to do is gently work one and than the other and then take some time off and eventually repeat. My goals are to enhance myself physically and perhaps repair some signs of ageing.

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Ade Due Damballa. Give me the power, I beg of you! Leveau mercier du bois chaloitte. Secoise entienne mais pois de morte. Morteisma lieu de vocuier de mieu vochette. Endelieu pour du boisette damballa. ~Chucky

 

[ALIN]

Looking forward to see how this goes for you. Good luck!

 

[remember_me?]

Thanks Alin. This is a test run. If it works out I will increase my doses on the 2nd run at the end of the year. Then I'll do HGH for 9 months next year and repeat the increased dosage peptide cycle in the beginning of 2012.

 

[chris31]

are these peptides legal? or do you need a prescription for them?
if this is a stupid question I apologies

 

[RADAR]

GHRP-6 is a 28-amino-acid peptide that signals the human body to begin secreting growth-hormone (GH). Growth Hormone in the human body has host of beneficial effects such as decreased body fat, increased muscle, and increased strength and stamina. The Growth Hormone secreted by the body then causes the liver to secrete the highly anabolic hormone known as IGF-1. IGF-1 also contributes greatly to the body’s ability to burn fat and build muscle. Thus, in several studies, when subjects were given GHRP-6, their muscle mass increased and their body fat was reduced significantly.

same thing but thru different nuero pathways SARM-4 (Acetamidoxolutamide) targets fat and skeletal tissue, 6 weeks should be just about right to see how all of those react in your routine.
I would take before and ater pictures to guage your progress!

 

[RADAR]

are these peptides legal? or do you need a prescription for them?
if this is a stupid question I apologies

Chris ,these peptides are legal to have but not legal for human consumption,as they are classified as research chemicals.


(at least they were last i heard)

 

[Para_Shoot]

I like it. I have also been doing more research and started another peptide run after 9 months of HgH (Blue Tops, as they say). I would not use GHRP-6 anymore, but thats just me. Ipamorelin is the one I put my money on. No hunger and no prolactin. I am also on GRF 1-29, but I call it Sermorelin. An excellent combo, a GHRP and a GHRH.

Tell me what you think of IGF1 DES

 

[chris31]

do any of the sponsors sell these peptides? I have a few rats that could try these

 

[d_rson]

MOD GRF 1-29 is Sermorelin, which requires a daily dose (no DAC).

 

[ALIN]

Thanks Alin. This is a test run. If it works out I will increase my doses on the 2nd run at the end of the year. Then I'll do HGH for 9 months next year and repeat the increased dosage peptide cycle in the beginning of 2012.

Any updates? Notable changes?

 

[zedhed]

Yup Chris they do.

 

[remember_me?]

Any updates? Notable changes?

Nothing terribly major to report yet other than the hunger attacks. They've brought me to the point of feeling hypoglycemic at times, which explains why I just woke up in the middle of the night (almost 3am here) and am eating a double decker peanut butter and rasberry jam sandwich with 16oz milk.

Other than that I feel great overall and I'll continue to update as I notice any other changes.

I've added one Ensure Plus drink per day immediately after breakfast since they're packed with calories, vitamins, nutrients, and an extra kick of protein.

MOD GRF 1-29 is Sermorelin, which requires a daily dose (no DAC).

Exactly the type of chiming in I was looking for. Thanks! And to those others who have experience or knowledge about peptides....keep it coming!

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Ade Due Damballa. Give me the power, I beg of you! Leveau mercier du bois chaloitte. Secoise entienne mais pois de morte. Morteisma lieu de vocuier de mieu vochette. Endelieu pour du boisette damballa. ~Chucky

 

[remember_me?]

The peptide practice run exceeded my expectations. Adding 0.5mg Dostinex to my cycle was like the sprinkles on the frosting on the cake. Do not fuck with that shit like some people overdo with oils. Lowering your prolactin levels too much can seriously mess you up physically and mentally. Anyway, I've had perma-wood and I feel like my mind has been operating like a greased Rolex watch. Other than the hunger attacks that I previously mentioned, the next noteable signs that things were going as planned was when my forearms began bulging in a way that I havn't felt since one of my oil cycles started kicking in back in the day.

Other factors worth noting are:

My hair has been a tad bit more oily but in a slightly different way than normal. Its an extra fine oilyness in the sense of extra virgin olive oil. Leaving a light healthy sheen to my hair without over clogging my pores or causing acne. Its weird.

The increased frequency to take one piss in the middle of the night, 2 or 3 times per week. That's not normal for me. And since it is only one piss on the nights in question I don't believe it is my prostate although I am scheduled for a checkup next month. Another thing related to urine is the B-complex which I felt necesary to cut the daily dosage in half after my body began excreting it noticeably more rapidly and with an increased urge to take a burning flourescent yellow piss. That never used to happen as strongly on a whole B-complex pill per day. The blood sugar issue is all but resolved in that I simply have to make sure I eat at least 4 meals per day and spread out somewhat evenly. After the first 2 incidents where it dropped below 55 I haven't had any other problems that caused me to check it. Reminds me of those old trains that needed someone to constantly shovel coal into the oven to keep the engine hot and running at full capacity.

I'm curious if as a cause of what I have done, the hair on my back, shoulders, chest, and stomach that I got lasered off will grow back at an increased rate. I sure hope not.

Physically and mentally, I can't remember ever feeling better. My goal wasn't to get huge but instead to act against the aging process and become as permanent of a better person as I possibly could. That said, the signs are all but gone from my 3 bouts of anorexia (caused by bouts of depression) in my late teens and then again in my early twenties. I look very young for my age anyways, but the last few times people have asked my age I asked them to guess and they averaged around 24. So my peptides certainly haven't been making me look older. I haven't noticed much of a decrease in body fat under my chin or on my face (major signs of aging) but I haven't really been monitoring it so I'll have to compare pictures or something.

The frequency of pin pricks gets annoying very quickly and would have caused me to stop altogether and not repeat in the future if it weren't for the fun and productive little signs that nature gave me that made me thankful for progressive science.

Thanks for reading this and to all those who've helped me in one way or another to reach this milestone. Hit me up if you have any questions.

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Ade Due Damballa. Give me the power, I beg of you! Leveau mercier du bois chaloitte. Secoise entienne mais pois de morte. Morteisma lieu de vocuier de mieu vochette. Endelieu pour du boisette damballa. ~Chucky in Child's Play the movie

 

[jacshelb]

Sounds like it's going well and you did your research. I think you are on the money with your gh peptides. The only thing I'd correct though is your assumption that igf1-lr3 will not go systemic if injected in the muscle vs sub-q. The half-life is what we're looking at here. bio-identical (original) igf-1 is very fast acting, like regular mgf, that is why people claim it has a site-specific effect. It is innactive so quickly that it has little chance to do anything outside the muscle in which it was injected. But, igf1-lr3 is modified in such a way that causes it to be resistant to break down and to being bound by igf-1 binding proteins. Therefore it tends to circulate in your system for hours, no matter where you inject it. You'll notice a bit of swelling in the muscle from im injections with it vs sub-q. But, that's not because it went to work and caused localized muscle growth, it's just temporary irritation. You're basically getting the nutrient disposal benefits from it- as you stated you were looking for from it. And, for that, it works very well. You can eat like a horse on it right after injection and not put on any fat to speak of.

A little trick to the gh peptides- Using gh itself 15 minutes post injection causes a severe "spike" in the pulse created by your ghrp/grf combo. I can't remember for sure just how much, but it really increases the output of gh by your body and your system sees it still as a "natural" pulse vs an exogenous injection. This is a weird statement, I know. But, it has to do with the timing. Also, there was a study done in the late 90s that showed using melatonin (10 mg) 1 hr before using ghrh (what we call grf) doubled the output of gh release normally caused by the grf! So, when I do my nightly dose I take 9 mg of melatonin (3 x 3 mg pills) 1 hr before my ipamorelin and mod grf. Then, 15 min later I take just 1 iu of GH. The results are surprising using it all this way. You get an incredible "bang for your buck." If you need a reference to the study, let me know, I'm sure I could track it down again.

Sounds like it's all going well and you know your stuff! Keep up the good work and getting great results!

 

[perico13]

im in for this!

 

[Drewb]

Why only 6 weeks? I know you have to cycle the IGF 30-40 day on/off and prob only run a few times a year. I've seen recommendations of a min of 10-12week for the CJC DAC and that if you cycle DAC CJC and CJC1-29 thy you could run it year round with the GHRP??

Currently running:
IGF LR3 - 40 days on, 3 days a week, IM inj, max of 80mcg a side on inj days
3300mcg of DAC CJC 1295 a week - 470mcg a night
450mcg of GHRP6 a day (159mcg x 3 a day)
Green tea
hypertenz A
SARM s4 - 6 weeks on then switch to Osta sarms

Just starting here 2 weeks ago (currently on oral aas) and I've never slept or felt better. Some minor fat loss. Increased sex drive. Increased muscle pumps (somewhat). Increased wood. Increased mental feeling of well being.


Another side effect I've noticed is my bad shoulder if feeling much better. The first week it felt really tight and no it hasn't hurt at all in almost a week just the normal "clicking" from the damaged cartilage with some movements

I agree with you, I love it so far. I also get the hunger spikes but them seem to calm a bit after a few weeks (less so).

 

[needtogetarmy]

IGF -1 Ec (MGF) @ 100mcg twice a week (what time of day?): I take it immediately after my workout and inject IM the muscles that were worked out. it takes a while to see results.

I didn't see anyone reply to that.

Good luck.

 

[jacshelb]

IGF -1 Ec (MGF) @ 100mcg twice a week (what time of day?): I take it immediately after my workout and inject IM the muscles that were worked out. it takes a while to see results.

I didn't see anyone reply to that.

Good luck.

Very good point. I always take mine immediately post workout too. I was wondering that too, why only 2 x week? Regular mgf is pretty short acting- good for post workout. Maybe thinking of peg mgf, idk.