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Test E compared with Sust.

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jake73

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Hi

Don't know if this has come up allready in the past, but I did not find a clear answer.

At the begining of this year I did a 12 week cycle of Sust @ 350mg/ml/week, split in 2 doses weekly. I had good gains and no dramatic sides, just a little water retention.

This coming winter I am tinking of doing a cycle with Test E at about the same dose or maybe just a bit higher. Now I have the following question.

Are Sust and Test E each others equals in regards to, mg/ml, sides, gains?
I like the idea to only have to inject once a week instead of 2-3 times.

thx
Jake
 
Bro u kan inject sust 1 time a week. But u will have more stedy blood levels. If u injecting it eod for ex then 1 time a week. But the resolts would be the same. I used to love test e 1ml vials from schering. But now do i use sust 250mg 1ml amps from Organon. And i am wery happy with my resolts on sust. Remember sust is a combo of 4 difrent test esters. 2 fast acting and 2 slow. That means that the sust work from day 1. But u have to wait for 3-4 week befor u kan see or feel anything from the test e. Acne or not is up and down i gues from indevid to indevid. But yes i gues u will get wery simular gains from using sust or test e. Some report more vater retention and gyno problems with test e. So u realy have to try it out. And feel things out ur self...
 
30mg Testosterone Propionate
60mg Testosterone Phenylpropionate
60mg Testosterone Isocaproate
100mg Testosterone Decanoate
Sustanon 100 is similar, though with three esters. The smaller dose is for pediatric use.

20mg Testosterone Propionate
40mg Testosterone Phenylpropionate
40mg Testosterone Isocaproate
The different testosterone esters provide for different half lives. Esterization of the testosterone molecules provides for a sustained (but non-linear) release of testosterone from the injection depot into the blood plasma.

While the intention of the mixed testosterone esters in Sustanon is to provide more stable serum testosterone levels, a single long-ester testosterone, such as testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate, may actually provide more stable serum testosterone levels.

To each his own.
 
same, only difference is you might feel sust sooner due to faster acting ester components. the trade off is test e might last longer after last injection, so it all even out.
 
ChangNam said:
Realy ?? I live in Thailand. Here it is oposit. Test e is more expensive then sust. I have sust from Organon 1ml amps prod in Pakistan. Fn good stuf !!
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lol that sucks!

Sus' is "sexy" here in USA, seemingly.. costs a bit more.

Peak blood levels with either will be in the first day or two.. a lot of people don't realize that. The long ester is rolling down hill, in terms of blood levels, from day 2-3.

The time release is a bonus, not a solid mechanism.
 
I read somewhere that long ester test leads to more bloat and potential for estrogen sides compared to sust.

I'm not sure this applies to me, but I have heard quite a few people talk about how different test esters do or don't bloat them as bad.

I have used test e and sust. Tbh I like using sust because it's pharm grade generally and it works fast. With the esters in it you don't reach maximum blood levels of test for several weeks, but you start gaining right off the bat thanks to the esters.

I prefer injecting twice a week. In the future I may try 3x a week for a higher amount, but you could also shoot 3 amps worth in 2 injects.

I like test period. I would use either kind, but given the option I prefer sust.
 
I prefer a single ester. I don't buy into the fancy multiple esters as being more balanced bullshit. After 6 weeks, you should be pretty fucking balanced out and climbing if you are injecting test E on the same schedule.
 
i've tried both but i've always been a fan of sust. never needed more than every 3 days for sust, but that was with some good ole schering primo.
 
I started this cycle out with 750mg sust a week. I did eod injections. Because i thought i would take benefits from them 2 short esters. But peopel was laughing at me on another forum. And told me that it did not mather if i did 1 or 2 injections a week. And that i would get them same resolts. And i had to drop my test dosage after 9 days. From 750 to 500mg because i was bloated and had gyno signs. So now do i do 250mg sust x 2 a week. And i am wery happy about my resolts. Belive it or not but when i like something do i buy alot. Know i live in Thailand. But after some Pharmacy rides last week. Did i desided to buy alot stuf and keap it. Because of hard times in the future. LOL ! So i just buy another 60 amps of sust. I am fucking in love with sust now. My next cycle will be prop. But anyway damn i love sust compair to test e now. Think it is because it kicks in much much faster then the test e.. Some complane about sicknes from injecting sust. But that is up and down from peopel to peopel. If someone feel this. Then stick to ur dosage or pinings. And just take some days of the gym. And eat alot multi vits and vit c. Gues it is normal that the imune system drops. When we are using roids.

BUMP !!
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Me either. I think sust flu is relative to how "bath tub" your sust is.

I love sust.
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x2 :D I never did a real cycle with sust erlier. Only 250mg a week with some dbol. Ok i was gaining. But i did not feel king kong and ding dong. Same i was feeling on test e. But now when i do 500mg a week. Do i feel like a king. I will bee injecting alot sust in the future...
 
Thanks for all the replies guys.

My main question was about if sides were the same for suat as for testE. I realize it all depends on the build up and half times, not so much on the difference in esther.
 
according to research sites i've read sustanon and E have almost the same sides.

the big diff between them though is sustanon has an ester that you will feel quick which is why i like sustanon. i dont want to wait to feel the effects hence i choose sust as my test.

but like said above over the course of time it really balances out. i guess its just a matter of sustanon has worked well for me so i will continue to go back to it.
 
stevesmi said:
according to research sites i've read sustanon and E have almost the same sides.

the big diff between them though is sustanon has an ester that you will feel quick which is why i like sustanon. i dont want to wait to feel the effects hence i choose sust as my test.

but like said above over the course of time it really balances out. i guess its just a matter of sustanon has worked well for me so i will continue to go back to it.
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Yes, I can feel the increased pumps, ect sooner with sust than E. Obviously because it has prop. But 500mg of each a week really shouldnt be any different once your a couple weeks in. Now, doing sust EOD is a completely different thing.
With sust, if i'm gonna run 500mg wk I'll kick it all off with 1 pin EOD for the first week. Then go to a normal mon/thurs schedule or whatever. Definatley adds a nice boost to the beginning.
 
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