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Var only worth it?

6-8.. at 6 weeks get a blood test, if you have no elevations, then continue.. but really going that long you are asking for trouble..
 
I'd do tbol over var just on price alone, though I am myself going to try var here soon. And I'd do a couple short tbol cycles personally.

4 weeks tbol, 4 weeks sustain alpha, repeat.

I've found that tbol loses it's ooph at 4 weeks, but is not very suppressive at that point, so sustain alpha seems to bring me back quickly. I also seem to continue to grow a couple weeks into PCT after tbol. It's pretty cool.

I'd try it out.
 
I'd do tbol over var just on price alone, though I am myself going to try var here soon. And I'd do a couple short tbol cycles personally.

4 weeks tbol, 4 weeks sustain alpha, repeat.

I've found that tbol loses it's ooph at 4 weeks, but is not very suppressive at that point, so sustain alpha seems to bring me back quickly. I also seem to continue to grow a couple weeks into PCT after tbol. It's pretty cool.

I'd try it out.

Sounds good.

Maybe it would be better to play it safe and run 4 weeks of tbol, PCT, stay off for 3-4 weeks and then start again. And get some blood work inbetween.

I think by next fall/winter I'll be settled into my new living situtaion and ill be able to run some injectables.

I just need something to give me a small boost untill then!
 
I would say 60mg of tbol is a very good dose. At a lower dose, from what I've seen, takes longer to see results. You may think its not working because there are few to no sides like where dbol you see the bloat ect. . I wouldnt run 2 orals together. 50mg of anavar is a good dose also. Ive heard of some people running var a little longer because its not as toxic as dbol, winstrol, etc. Either one, money considering, will jump your strength and appearance. Keep us updated with pics and numbers as you go. GOOD LUCK!
 
I just got done doing a 12 week Anavar only cycle. It was for cutting and I lost 15lbs fat and actually put on 3lbs of muscle which was bonus! At week 12, I was still going strong and could have run var for 4 more weeks which is not unheard of but is somehow frowned upon. My dose was 60mg ed (20mg x 3 a day) and I havent noticed any side effects such as libido loss, mood swings, gyno, acne, hairloss or anything else. Right now I'm doing PCT with Nolva only and waiting on Testosterone Recovery Stack which I'll run with Nolva for 2 more weeks. In the meantime, I've started another 12 week fatloss thing, this time all natural, since I'm still recovering from my last cycle and utilizing the "time off = time on" theory.

My next anavar cycle will consist of 90mg ed (30mg x 3) for 8-10 weeks followed by similar pct I'm doing now. I might also run Primo @ 120mg ed for 12 weeks but I wont stack them together. I hear it's better to stack em with test but I'm not experienced enough to inject yet...
 
I just got done doing a 12 week Anavar only cycle. It was for cutting and I lost 15lbs fat and actually put on 3lbs of muscle which was bonus! At week 12, I was still going strong and could have run var for 4 more weeks which is not unheard of but is somehow frowned upon. My dose was 60mg ed (20mg x 3 a day) and I havent noticed any side effects such as libido loss, mood swings, gyno, acne, hairloss or anything else. Right now I'm doing PCT with Nolva only and waiting on Testosterone Recovery Stack which I'll run with Nolva for 2 more weeks. In the meantime, I've started another 12 week fatloss thing, this time all natural, since I'm still recovering from my last cycle and utilizing the "time off = time on" theory.

My next anavar cycle will consist of 90mg ed (30mg x 3) for 8-10 weeks followed by similar pct I'm doing now. I might also run Primo @ 120mg ed for 12 weeks but I wont stack them together. I hear it's better to stack em with test but I'm not experienced enough to inject yet...

Did you check with your liver and your lipids when you began thinking of this one?

B-
 
bblazer: no i have not but i should have. It was my 1st cycle with an aas so I was not prepared. My next cycle with var or primo, I'll definintely do bloodwork, before and after... I'm pretty sure my levels are all sorts of f'ed up, hence I'm staying all natural for the next 90 days while I recover from the abuse.
 
c12h16n2 said:
bblazer: no i have not but i should have. It was my 1st cycle with an aas so I was not prepared. My next cycle with var or primo, I'll definintely do bloodwork, before and after... I'm pretty sure my levels are all sorts of f'ed up, hence I'm staying all natural for the next 90 days while I recover from the abuse.
I did a 10wk by 100mg Ed var and it took 6 months for my lipids to recover doc freaked put me on colesterol drugs until it lowered , but at 4 wks it stays with in the normal range !!!!



Brad .
 
Wow, 6 months huh.. I should definitely have bloodwork done after this 12 week all natural thing then, before starting another var or a new primo cycle, just to make sure everything is ok.

Remember the guy from supersize me, at the end of the show, his cholestorol levels were very bad and even the doc said he didnt think he'd ever recover fully... But eventually he did...

Everyone who worries too much about the liver and lipid levels, etc... Think about all the ppl that drink kegs of alcohol, eat unhealthy all their lives and it STILL takes decades for all that to take it's toll, so I figure, so long as we give our bodies enough time to recover from different levels of abuse and keep our diets clean, we'll be alright.

I did a 10wk by 100mg Ed var and it took 6 months for my lipids to recover doc freaked put me on colesterol drugs until it lowered , but at 4 wks it stays with in the normal range !!!!



Brad .
 
Wow, 6 months huh.. I should definitely have bloodwork done after this 12 week all natural thing then, before starting another var or a new primo cycle, just to make sure everything is ok.

Remember the guy from supersize me, at the end of the show, his cholestorol levels were very bad and even the doc said he didnt think he'd ever recover fully... But eventually he did...

Everyone who worries too much about the liver and lipid levels, etc... Think about all the ppl that drink kegs of alcohol, eat unhealthy all their lives and it STILL takes decades for all that to take it's toll, so I figure, so long as we give our bodies enough time to recover from different levels of abuse and keep our diets clean, we'll be alright.

That's exactly what I used to think.

Now I am infertile, and my pituitary gland does not and will never function again. I am on TRT for life. Let me tell you that after a wile, shooting test all the time and HCG to keep some size to my balls really really sucks.

B-
 
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