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Who's seen it and what did you think?
Who's seen it and what did you think?
Anyone seen Avatar?
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I want to see it. Keep us updated because Im not trying to waste any money. You can do that for me 
I want to see it. Keep us updated because Im not trying to waste any money. You can do that for me
I'm good at wasting money
bakemeacookie
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make sure u watch it 3d. that's the whole purpose - first reviews coming in and they're pretty good
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bakemeacookie
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Avatar financially was a flop. $70M nowhere what execs where hoping for. In comparison, Twilight made $140M in a weekend. Double what avatar made:
'Twilight: New Moon' mania rakes in $140 million opening weekend - From Inside the Box - Zap2it
'Twilight: New Moon's' gross of $140.7 million puts it at third all-time for an opening weekend. It pulled in $258.8 worldwide, according to studio estimates
Don't forget, avatar cost 5x what new moon cost. Don't expect an Avatar 2
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'Twilight: New Moon' mania rakes in $140 million opening weekend - From Inside the Box - Zap2it
'Twilight: New Moon's' gross of $140.7 million puts it at third all-time for an opening weekend. It pulled in $258.8 worldwide, according to studio estimates
Don't forget, avatar cost 5x what new moon cost. Don't expect an Avatar 2
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calveless wonder
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Avatar financially was a flop. $70M nowhere what execs where hoping for. In comparison, Twilight made $140M in a weekend. Double what avatar made:
'Twilight: New Moon' mania rakes in $140 million opening weekend - From Inside the Box - Zap2it
'Twilight: New Moon's' gross of $140.7 million puts it at third all-time for an opening weekend. It pulled in $258.8 worldwide, according to studio estimates
Don't forget, avatar cost 5x what new moon cost. Don't expect an Avatar 2
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avatar was released on a really shitty weekend. week before christmas...seriously?
and the promotion for it wasn't not done right.
but to say don't expect an avatar 2 is retarded. you don't know how the film will do internationally or if box office sales might be steady as opposed to heavily sloped.
and i doubt the producers of the movie are using "new moon" as their basis for comparison. Especially since that POS movie built its brand through books and a really crappy movie before that. So no, that's a shitty comparison. lol. in business,it's about YOUR bottom line, not someone elses
seriously, GTFOH
Avatar financially was a flop. $70M nowhere what execs where hoping for. In comparison, Twilight made $140M in a weekend. Double what avatar made:
'Twilight: New Moon' mania rakes in $140 million opening weekend - From Inside the Box - Zap2it
'Twilight: New Moon's' gross of $140.7 million puts it at third all-time for an opening weekend. It pulled in $258.8 worldwide, according to studio estimates
Don't forget, avatar cost 5x what new moon cost. Don't expect an Avatar 2
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lol @ flop.
Made $250 million worldwide in 1 weekend. A 3 hour movie...and the studios werent expecting more than $70-80 mil anyway. Titanic opened to a $28 million dollar weekend...but continued playing for 9 months.
All of Cameron's films have legs. Avatar will do perfectly fine.
Anyway, I saw it this weekend in 3d. Was pretty good, but not spectacular. Wife actually liked it more than I did. Worth the price of a ticket. Its a cliched story, but as Ebert always says, its not what a movie is about but how it is about it. Avatar gets the job done.
Sean Scott
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Have not seen Avatar, but going today to see Invictus. My friends went to see it at IMAX they say it was great, I dont't believe it will do that great bit we will see.
I went to see if on Friday, and they told me Friday Saturday and Sunday were fullt booked in advance for Avatar wtf??
bakemeacookie
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Do you know what profit is? It's all about benjamins yo. Even if it made as much money as twilight (i doubt) - twilight will still make 5x more profit cuz it cost way less.
End of the day: Do you want to be a avatar producer or a twilight producer? Which will allow you to buy your own island?
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I was gonna see it yesterday (husband and his friend wanted, his gf and I where tagging along) but we ended up playing all night with my brother's Wii... I'd like to say I dodged a bullet, but am not that sure....
What does that have to do with Avacor being an alleged "flop?"
And lol @ talking about "profit" in Hollywood when technically on paper Forrest Gump is still listed as a flop.
If only the writers in Hollywood were half as creative as the accountants.
calveless wonder
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you forget who you're talking to
bakemeacookie
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Silly Entertainnment Tonight brainwashed man!
Flop = (money invested - money returned) = profit / expectation.
go read the dailies if u want to be more educated. i'm not goign to explain basic movie finance to you if ur laughable view of movie profits is simply "Hey $70M! Everyone's driving ferraris and living in mansions now I bet!".
Whatever the reason - avatar will barely squeek out a profit if it even does. The days of studios making massive profits from big huge movies are over - it's the new moon's, hangovers, sex in the city and paranormal acitivies low-budget, high-return movies that are keeping the studios in business, paying peopels paychecks and allowing movies like avatar to be made in the first place.
and stop listening to what cnn says.
http://www.slate.com/id/2124078/
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Is this movie supposed to be based on the series Avatar? If so they fail.... earth benders are not blue weird creatures....
Jesus.
Avatar is officially the #1 December opening of all time. It did $250 million internationally over the weekend. This does NOT include territories like Japan (where it will make a shitload), China, and a large portion of Europe.
Assuming the budget (with marketing) was between the unofficial numbers of $300-400 million, no matter how you look at it both Fox and Cameron are sitting pretty right now.
Any movie that makes back 80% of it's total cost PLUS marketing in 1 weekend is not a flop.
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bakemeacookie
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STOP READING CNN!!!! THAT CRAP IS WRITTEN BY PUBLICISTS FOR YOU DODOHEADS!!!
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Language, Supernav. Thanks in advance.
lol I love when 75th argues with RG....classic
redsamurai
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saw avatar last night......phenomenal. I'll probably see it again and will look forward to the DVD release which will probably have an extra hour or more of movie in it. That world was unreal, my only quip with the movie was the "unobtanium".....seriously? Otherwise, spectacular.
As for this queef between RG and 75th......I"m going to have to go with 75th, this movie is going to be in theatres for a long ass time. Twilight will not do anything around the globe because no other society is as full of angst ridden brain washed market pwned females that fantasize about a werewolf and a vampire fighting over them. Avatar they will all go to see though.
As for this queef between RG and 75th......I"m going to have to go with 75th, this movie is going to be in theatres for a long ass time. Twilight will not do anything around the globe because no other society is as full of angst ridden brain washed market pwned females that fantasize about a werewolf and a vampire fighting over them. Avatar they will all go to see though.
bakemeacookie
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flop is not a good return on investment $
obama is scamming you guys.
rich white men love obama
american idol is great for RUNNER UPS
never be alone in a room with pick3
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bakemeacookie
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So if u mortgage your $1M house, finance a movie, and it brings in $2,000 in profit - you call that success or a flop? (by your definition it's profitable!)
Most movies "flop". Clearly you've never been an actor who profit shares.
Hollywood accounting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Flop seems an extreme term. You're not 2% bf, you're fat. Perhaps, "not a blockbuster" would be more appropriate.
And besides, it's premature to make conclusions on it's profitability since it's not had to opportunity to earn money on DVD sales. Also, is there gonna be any merch on this flick?
And besides, it's premature to make conclusions on it's profitability since it's not had to opportunity to earn money on DVD sales. Also, is there gonna be any merch on this flick?
needs to be video game also.
There's already a video game out.
And razor, for the third time, people get fucked out of back end profit due to creative studio accounting. Literally everyone who's seen a movie knows this. That DOES NOT mean that others don't get ungodly rich off of even a marginally successful movie. Or even one that loses money (eg Uwe Boll).
Your mortgage analogy makes no sense.
And razor, for the third time, people get fucked out of back end profit due to creative studio accounting. Literally everyone who's seen a movie knows this. That DOES NOT mean that others don't get ungodly rich off of even a marginally successful movie. Or even one that loses money (eg Uwe Boll).
Your mortgage analogy makes no sense.
bakemeacookie
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If next year's budget is dependant on a big profit from a $400M movie - and it doesn't materialize - then yes it's a flop.
Yes kids, there's layoffs and people worried about their jobs too in Hollywood. Most people in Hollywood work 2 months a year and are always looking for f/t jobs.
I have no idea why people think everyone here drives Ferraris and lives in mansions lol. Read that article I posted.
Here's a good article:
What percentage of movies lose money overall? | Ask MetaFilter
This book explains everyting I said in FULL detail. Great read:
Amazon.com: The Big Picture: The New Logic of Money and Power in Hollywood (9781400063536): Edward Jay Epstein: Books
What you still wanna learn more about reality and what cnn says? read this breakdown:
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=8359
Buy that book if anyone wants to learn more (most people on the internet just wanna argue and feel smart - few wanna learn unfortunately)
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is it based on the series or is it a coincidence?
nangiggles is that you in your avi?
Anyway, bakemeafuckincookie I agree with you just because you do your research and I'm the same way. I love chat
Anyway, bakemeafuckincookie I agree with you just because you do your research and I'm the same way. I love chat
is that your bike and what kind is it, punk
Coincidence. M Night Shaymalanamanayman is making an Avatar: Last Airbender movie now.
Gladiator, just wondering if that's the same amount of research you did on how the swine flu vaccine was a gubment conspiracy to kill us all.
I'm going to see it this week. I'll make a movie review thread about it when I do.
Producers I can understand, they'd literally shit out a movie if they knew it'd sell. As for whomever was at the helm creating any given piece of entertainment, that would be completely fucked up if $$ was the ultimate motive. Sure, just like Titanic, the profit margin of Avatar is a fraction of Twilight's, but what movie do you want to be remembered for making? Some teenybopper geigh-fest that people will laugh at 10 years from now (actually most people already are) or a cinematic masterpiece that will stand the test of time, help serve as a study guide for future film techniques, always being one of the first movies preserved/remastered for new formats, etc.
Actually, all things considered, it's highly likely Titanic has "made" more than Twilight ever will at this point, because it's a solid movie. Over the course of the next decade Avatar will probably do the same. The difference is, Cameron will still be respected a decade from now, whereas Hardwicke and Weitz are already lol.
redsamurai
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am I missing something? I understand the movie cost in the neighborhood of 400m, but how does a 250m opening weekend mean it's a flop? This is a movie that A) is going to get alot of word of mouth and B)People are going to see this 2-3 times.
I can already personally vouch that I will see this "at least" twice, and I never do that. The last movie I had to see twice was cloverfield and that's ONLY cause a broad dragged me. I will voluntarily see this movie at least once more if not twice. And when the DVD hits......this thing will make 1B easy when you take into account the worldwide sales. This is a series too by the way.....by the time Avatar 2 comes along everyone will know this brand.
I can already personally vouch that I will see this "at least" twice, and I never do that. The last movie I had to see twice was cloverfield and that's ONLY cause a broad dragged me. I will voluntarily see this movie at least once more if not twice. And when the DVD hits......this thing will make 1B easy when you take into account the worldwide sales. This is a series too by the way.....by the time Avatar 2 comes along everyone will know this brand.
I'm going to be doing some training videos soon of my DC training. They will be the first time ever I video tape myself training. I'll post em up on the weightlifting forums.
Hey Bino,
1.) It's 2009, Bush isn't in office anymore.
2.) In 2000 the majority of people voted for Gore. Bush won through the electoral college loophole.
3.) In 2004 the majority voted for Bush because we were all ready to bomb the fuck out of the Middle East...guess that's the part you were talking about.
im gonna sic one of my internet psychos on you
Hey Bino,
1.) It's 2009, Bush isn't in office anymore.
2.) In 2000 the majority of people voted for Gore. Bush won through the electoral college loophole.
3.) In 2004 the majority voted for Bush because we were all ready to bomb the fuck out of the Middle East...guess that's the part you were talking about.
1. you bloated, squishy tofu filled liberal turd i was doing a parody
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That's slightly bloated, christmas cookie filled, centrist tud; thank you.
(What the hell's a tud?)
Avatar financially was a flop. $70M nowhere what execs where hoping for. In comparison, Twilight made $140M in a weekend. Double what avatar made:
'Twilight: New Moon' mania rakes in $140 million opening weekend - From Inside the Box - Zap2it
'Twilight: New Moon's' gross of $140.7 million puts it at third all-time for an opening weekend. It pulled in $258.8 worldwide, according to studio estimates
Don't forget, avatar cost 5x what new moon cost. Don't expect an Avatar 2
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gstacker
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Damn lol 6 pages and like two comments on the actual movie.... Lots of bs about producers n cost n bottom lines n shit.... Who gives a rats ass
the movie was sick I liked it alot, me n my 13yo daughter went together n she liked it too...
I o ly wish I would of seen it in 3D... The movie did get a lil mushy like a love story but it was in a cool way not a chic flick... Can I get some confirmation on this from some bros make sure I'm not turning mo lol
the movie was sick I liked it alot, me n my 13yo daughter went together n she liked it too...
I o ly wish I would of seen it in 3D... The movie did get a lil mushy like a love story but it was in a cool way not a chic flick... Can I get some confirmation on this from some bros make sure I'm not turning mo lol
needtogetarmy
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It was so so. The plot was very anti-US.
it was sick in 3d rob, no youre not a mo.
best movie i've seen in a loooooong time...would consider it top 5 movies of all time IMO
Wasnt anywhere near that good, bor.
Inglourious Basterds remains the best film of the year, IMO.
I watched it in digital 3d....I loved it...it's got everything a good movie should have, a greta plot, good acting, adventure, visual effects, tech gadgets, freaky aliens, human / alien interaction, furious battle scenes, good fight scenes, inspirational speeches, etc....
Inglorious bastards was not that great IMO.
For me, the best movie this year was the Hangover PERIOD
chris302001
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redsamurai
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Basterds was good for 15 minutes.......after that first scene the movie went so far down hill it was ridiculous. That movie was a joke. That whole crew, with the exception of ze german......was a giant brooklyn joke. And of course they killed the german off early.......terrible! AFter the first scene, the only good part was the running wrist shooter to the face at the end........
lol. Cameron has even admitted more than once that the story and dialogue were the least of his concerns. The plot was one big cliche that was done better at least a few times before (Dances with Wolves, The New World, etc).
Doesnt mean that the movie was bad, but aside from the 3D immersion and the action there was nothing spectacular about it.
And lol @ The Hangover being the best movie of the year.
Chris90210 said:
UP is....up there....with Inglourious Basterds. Probably a close second if not tied for first.
redsamurai said:
Basterds is far and away Tarantino's best film. Theres no other way to describe it is pure Hitchcockian when you consider at least 3 extended scenes where a ridiculous amount of tension is built just through dialogue (the scene with the Nazi soldiers in the bar is my favorite).
Also, the movie (even despite the title) wasnt about the Basterds. It was about Shoshanna and Hans Landa, who is the best character of the year and Christoph Waltz (who played him) gives one of the best performances of the decade in bringing him to life. Up there with Daniel Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood.
uh oh. this just became a must see for me
It was good. But alc says its one of the best movies hes ever seen.
I wonder how many movies hes watched during his lifetime?
Sherlock Holmes was alright. Avatar is a better time.
Up In The Air with The Clooney is an all around good flick as well. A much better film overall than Avatar, but obviously it depends on whether you like that type of adult comedy/drama.
bakemeacookie
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lol! Sherlock holmes beats Avatar so it's reign was only one weekend. As a result people are PISSED and the marketing/numbers war has started today to ensure whose headlines takes center stage tomorrow! It's gonna get bloody kids:
"Sherlock Holmes" beats out "Avatar" at box office
1) Sherlock Holmes beats out Avatar at box office | Reuters
'Avatar' wins second week in a row
2) 'Avatar' wins second week in a row
Gotta love marketing wars
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"Sherlock Holmes" beats out "Avatar" at box office
1) Sherlock Holmes beats out Avatar at box office | Reuters
'Avatar' wins second week in a row
2) 'Avatar' wins second week in a row
Gotta love marketing wars
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redsamurai
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up there with Daniel Day lewis in TWBB? You're smoking right? And no that was certainly not even close to Tarantino's best film. That honor still belongs to the fiction with the KB movies not too far behind.
stosstruppe
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Saw Avatar with the better half on Boxing Day. Eh it was alright, not really digging the new style "animation" or w/e it is, hard to get immersed in the film compared with District 9 which is personally my movie of the year. Guess the Warcraft movie will be using Avatar-style animation.
2012 was same duration & admittedly kept my attention better during the 2'5+ hours.
The colonel was pretty bad ass though, more a grizzled SNCO than officer though.
2012 was same duration & admittedly kept my attention better during the 2'5+ hours.
The colonel was pretty bad ass though, more a grizzled SNCO than officer though.
Negatory my son. Basterds > Fiction. Also, how can you not be in awe of Waltz's performance?
Avatar beat Sherlock by a few million. They called it for Sherlock erroneously at first because they didnt take into account the surprisingly high Saturday and Sunday numbers for Avatar.lol! Sherlock holmes beats Avatar so it's reign was only one weekend. As a result people are PISSED and the marketing/numbers war has started today to ensure whose headlines takes center stage tomorrow! It's gonna get bloody kids:
"Sherlock Holmes" beats out "Avatar" at box office
1) Sherlock Holmes beats out Avatar at box office | Reuters
'Avatar' wins second week in a row
2) 'Avatar' wins second week in a row
Gotta love marketing wars
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bakemeacookie
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Funny, when first reports came in that sherlock beat avatar you could hear red sirens go off and phones going off like crazy lol. silly town.
"who wins the w/e is very important".entertainment data inc. is gonna be read the riot act 2morrow!
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The trailers made Basterds look absolutely retarded, basically nothing more than a slapstick orgy of Jewish revenge.
Ya...which is why I wasnt too excited about seeing it...especially after suffering through Death Proof.
Boy was I wrong.
That's interesting, sounds like it's worth a watch.
Avatar IMAX is still sold out for my town, gotta wait til tomorrow lol. Good thing I have Monday off.
Avatar IMAX is still sold out for my town, gotta wait til tomorrow lol. Good thing I have Monday off.
bakemeacookie
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Speaking of avatar - Why do you have an avatar of a lesbian with a gun??? Why do you play these games with my mind? I'm just a man. A very distinguished and attractive man.
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gstacker
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Lol@2012 and district 9
just goes to show we all have diff taste... Good thing the worlds not all one color
wow those two movies sucked ass!
I watch 3 movies a week with my wife.
I think I need to go out more, but we enjoy cuddling and watchin movies in bed.
I've been watching 3 movies a week for the last 3 years. That's a lotta movies orb
It is...but you do not want to challenge my film experience, young orb.
Did you watch Basterds, btw?
jackangel
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incorrect.
redsamurai
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and that's exactly what it was save for the first 15-20 minutes. I'll give the first scene credit, it was one of the most well done parts of a movie maybe ever. Which makes it so inexplicable what the film degenerated into.
hahaha i think you've met ur match bro
i liked bastards im a tarantino fan
D9 was awesome too
both movies dont compare to avatar
what are your 10 all time favorite movies?
c-sharp minor
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Most mainstream movies aren't my cup o' tea.
Here's my pick for movie of the year.
Here's my pick for movie of the year.
Top 10 movies ever? Thats a hard list for me to put together. I tend to judge not only by quality but also re-watchability. In no particular order, I know the list would include:
- Saving Private Ryan
- Braveheart
- Basterds (narrowly edging out Jackie Brown, which was his best prior to Basterds)
- Memento
- In Bruges
- Heat
- Wall-E (either that or UP)
Thats off the top of the ol noggin.
bakemeacookie
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Finally saw it. Basically dances with the wolves wiht a very predictable plot - but people go for the visuals and 3d, not story.
Was good - but cinemjatography sucked. Very few 'wow', 'kewl!' breathtaking momenets like in star wars, transformers or lord of the rings. As such it's not one of those 'let's watch it again' type movies, but visually nice.
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Was good - but cinemjatography sucked. Very few 'wow', 'kewl!' breathtaking momenets like in star wars, transformers or lord of the rings. As such it's not one of those 'let's watch it again' type movies, but visually nice.
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AztecWarrior
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Looks gay. Wouldn't waste my time.
Here's mine:
1- Braveheart
2- Scarface
3- Godfather I, Godfather II
4- Rocky I,II,III,IV,V,VI
5- Scent of a Woman
6- Italian Job
7- Heat
8- Snatch
9- Forrest Gump
10- Avatar or the Hangover (not too sure which one)
^^I'm sure I can replace 1 or 2 of them with another if I think this through, but this is off the top of my head...in no particular order, except Braveheart is #1 for sure.
I thought a lot of the stuff when they were flying the dragon things looked pretty good. Gave a good sense of speed when they were diving, and also when Jack was trying to escape that pissed off beast in the forest....damn. Plus it was all in 3D. Nothing like that in those other movies you mentioned. I never thought Transformers was anything special either. Great special effects yeah but the only "wow" moment in that movie was probably when Optimus was getting his ass kicked in the woods. Other than that it was basically like 2012 on a smaller scale, with robots. Senseless destruction. Transformers also fails as far as making the audience feel anything. Well, maybe kids started crying when Optimus "died" lol.
The other thing is I don't see how Sherlock Holmes even came close to Avatar in numbers this weekend. I went to Avatar this morning and even the non 3D showing was sold out. On a Monday morning.
Avatar will be in the top 2 for at least the next 4-5 weeks. Gonna continue making a shitload of bank.
bakemeacookie
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The main complaint i heard from many leaving the theater was 'it was too long'. Cameraon made one very bad mistake: most films have at least 3 "areas". this movie had only TWO: inside ship, and jungle.
This alone is what made it seem much longer to audiences. (eg:titanic had: inside ship drama, outside ship romance scenes, ending water crash).
(eg2: star wars had tattoine, inside death star, dogfight in space, all visually different).
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redsamurai
Banned
I'm glad another grown adult non gay male like wall-e as much as I did. I was blown away by that movie. Just thought I was taking my nephew to go see a movie so his parents can get a breather. Turns out the little adhd faggot (I say that with luv) barely watched the movie and wanted to run around the theater and it was me that was transfixed......
lol
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