GUYS HELPPPP plz!!

[chabas]

HI all.. im new to this forums and fitness forums over all. 1st thing i want to look awsome. for that i think i need to have 19" arms (i have 13.5 now) among other things. lets start with my slef.
im 26
198lbs. lil definition then again i dont look fat ... at all
height 6' feet
i am healthy. i take no medications for nothing completely good

i want to use steroids. (please dont tell me to stay away since i already made up my mind) i want to use them as safe as i possibly can. now me beeing a noob i was thinkin to go with Primo. a friend recomended test e, anabol and somthing else but i think that is too strong and too many needles for a noob. my body has never been expose to more than N.O xplode. others recomended deca. again i am a big noob i have no clue how to go about it. im still in the research face but i would like to hear the public opinion (whomever wants to share light)
i dont ask about it in my gym because ppl tend to get offended if you talk to them about roids. so can i go with primo alone? my goal is muscle mass and well define i want to look ripped and solid. if not how should i go about it from a noob view of things? should i use test e alone then? would i have to use the PCT with primo? or test e? how many MLG of primo should i use? which lab should i buy from?

i know their is a search button so plz dont direct me to it because all i find its info prior to 2008. if you do not want to share any info then just ignore this.

thanks!!!

 

[rippedapart]

Theres no lab talk on this board but, you deffinitly need to do more research test e is a good compound for a beginner and you only have to pin once a week. You should run a low dose to see how your body reacts around 250 a week. You need a pct after any cycle use the search function there are tons of threads on this site. Also primo is another steroid it should not be used during pct phase it will only shut you down more.

 

[chabas]

k thx

 

[RADAR]

You can not ask for labs Sources here..........DON't do it again.


Steroids speed up protein synthesis so you will need 2 grams of protein for every lb of bodyweight.you could run test only or
I would reccommend a dbol only cycle (it's effective & cheap).Unlike primo you will need at least 400-600mg wk and thats very expensive.

You will need ancillaries & PCT.

RADAR

 

[HOLYSHITLOOK@ME]

Hey buddy, Take it slow, read as much as you can. Learn! Check out the "Cycle" and "PCT" sections. read read read and good luck. If you have questions, dont hesitate to ask

 

[chabas]

noted on the lab question. price is not an issue now .. forgot to mention on the initial question. the only reason i considered primo was because i read its one of the safest cause the androgenic effects are mild to none.

 

[rippedapart]

Safe is a realative term but you are correct anything you put in your body could cause an effect. Nelson knows alot about primo he may chime in an help you out. Check out the diet forum if price is not an issue you could chef up an amazing meal plan to maximize your gains even with out a cycle right away.

 

[chabas]

with out a cycle only on meals? thats good to know. i'll go and research there... thx

 

[RADAR]

with out a cycle only on meals? thats good to know. i'll go and research there... thx

The most anabolic compound you can put in your body is....FOOD!



RADAR

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Hey man welcome to the forum..

The reason you can't ask for sources here is a safety issue for us, keeps turf wars down and just plain a rule.. (I am not harping on you, I made the same mistake..)

If you want 19 inch arms ripped you are going to have to show some real dedication..

Get your diet in perfect shape.. see the diet forum.. eat every 2-3 hrs.. it sucks but you get used to it fast..

get your training right on (you may have already).. be sure to get enough rest and recovery..

Now to the steroids question..
My first cycle was dbol only, and I loved it.. 10mg/day for 30 days and I didn't know anything about pct so I didnt do it.. kept most of my gains anyways though.

primo only wont get you where you want to go..

I suggest, as a start.. use Dbol only or Testosterone cypionate or enanthate ONLY.. just one of them.. you will find out how you like them specifically this way..

If Dbol:
10-20mgs per day for 4-6 weeks followed by pct.

If Testosterone cypionate/enanthate:
200-400mgs injected once per week for about 10 weeks followed by pct.

use just one the first time.. it will break you into all of it and you always have time later for bigger and better cycles.. you can continue to study..

if you use dbol.. the next cycle can be test and dbol.. (as you will already know what dbol does for you)
same with test.. if you use it first you will know how dbol does for you since you know what the test does for you..

people that jump in and use three compounds are at higher risk for side effect.. dont really need all the shit.. and never know what did the best for them!

 

[Just Learning]

Hello buddy, I argree with holyshit that you should definately take it slow and reaserch A LOT before you acctually buy and/or take any steroid. there are a lot of good sites with info of effectiveness vs side effects and profiles os steroids and info on them on also reaserch into the injection procedure, there are a lot of ways it can go wrong, i would also recomend doing it with someone experienced who dosent take steroid use lightly and is aware of the risks and the rewards. there are some vids on youtube. Good luck : )

 

[chabas]

thanks to all of you for your imputs. i am doing more and more research before i start. my friend uses roids but he has been using it for a while. he is also helping me research what would be good for starters since he had bad a bad experience when he started. once again thank you for your advice.

 

[ceo]

HI all.. im new to this forums and fitness forums over all. 1st thing i want to look awsome. for that i think i need to have 19" arms (i have 13.5 now) among other things. lets start with my slef.
im 26
198lbs. lil definition then again i dont look fat ... at all
height 6' feet

So, you're 6' tall and 198 lbs, with 13.5" arms??? Something's not adding up unless you've got a big belly. I'm 6'2" and when I started out at 160 lbs. I had 13" arms. When I was around 200 lbs. my arms were somewhere around 16.5" if I remember right.

So, how long have you been seriously lifting? About a week? That might actually make sense. If you've not been lifting very long, why do you want to take steroids? You don't know what you're doing when it comes to diet and working out yet, but you're ready for steroids????

Steroids are NOT the first course of action. First course of action is to get on a good lifting program. I recommend starting with something like the 3x5 or 5x5 ~ read the weightlifting/training board.

Next, get your nutrition squared away (read the diet board). Radar mentioned 2 grams of protein per lb. of bodyweight, that is the goal for you IF you want to bulk. And trust me, to get 19" arms, you will have to bulk. You'll need to get to around 230-250 relatively lean. Eat your protein first, then carbs and dont forget veggies to keep things moving.

Then you'll want to get your supplements figured out. I'm talking about protein shakes, pre and post workout stuff, etc.

Lastly, after you've figured out what you're doing and how your body responds to proper training and nutrition...you can look into steroids if you're still not happy with your progression naturally.

Seriously, you could put on 40 lbs naturally in a relatively short period of time if you got serious and did this right. I know you said money is no object, but why waste it? You'd be wasting your money on steroids at this point, in my opinion.

 

[chabas]

yeah i've been training for 18 months i switch my work out programs every 3 months or so so my body wont get used to it. when i train i look bigger and i like how i look but that all goes away once im resting. i train 5 days a week. supplements i just finish taking are optimun 100% whey, cell mass, true mass and NO xplode. i did get size but once i cam off of it all (so my body can be a bit natural) i lost it all and when back to 198lbs. i still drink NO xplode b4 i hit the gym for the mental focus. before i started trainin i was 200 pound but no definition my buddies used to make fun of me cz you couldn't even see my tricept when i flexed. now i am a bit muscular my chest, arms, legs and back have some definition and once i was over my fear of getting fat on unwanted places i decided to use weight gainr (true mass) so i can get the volume i desire but no good. and it seems that the harder i train the skinnier or fitted depends how you look at things i would get. i was wrong about my arm size i will measure my self later on today and put and up to date number. i admit i have a poor nutrition but i think that my protein intake is good. 3 scoop of whey with non fat milk 3 times a day and 3 scoops of true mass right before bed with non fat milk also. if i new of something that would give me the desire results and other than roids i would do. but maybe cause of the people that are around me following their strcit diets i just dont like the way their bodies look as opose to a few guys i know that are on roids and are looking like GI joes or dragon ball z toons or right out of the 300 movie. eventhough i feel thy are a bit careless with the health risks and this is why im not fully listening to them and doing my research like asikng in this forum