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Given how many abortion doctors are killed (not that many)...

does that change the fact that without the mother it would not survive? It's still a decision between a woman and her god, period.
If you were referring to the Mother Mary, i'd agree. But, amongst us mortals, there's a penis involved. So, i think we oughtta get a vote.
 
no I'm pretty sure christians view abortion as murder......in fact they make no distinction between abortion and walking up to someone and killing them for no reason. I am talking about the more fundamental people though, the ones who take the bible word for word.

actually there may be abortions actually performed in the bible in the old testiment soooo i dunno....

And one of the most fundamental Christians pastors ever (I cant decide if he's a nutcase or what...he's very fundie) who writes tons of Christian books, Dr. Peter Ruckman says that abortion is NOT murder, that a human does not have a soul until birth - so no murder is taking place

Christians are divided on the abortion issue - they debate it all the time.
 
the abortion debate will never be solved for one side or the other.
Any reasonable and intelligent person could make an objective argument for either side, and therein lies the never ending debate.
Kind of like the death penalty.
 
This society makes it too easy to be irresponsible. Let's stop providing these services. Let's see how many people are willing to do their own dirty work. That goes for euthanizing your own pets, too.
 
Christians are divided on the abortion issue - they debate it all the time.

The average Christian may talk about being against abortion but when their backs are against the wall with a pregnancy they will make the trip to the "clinic".
 
This society makes it too easy to be irresponsible. Let's stop providing these services. Let's see how many people are willing to do their own dirty work. That goes for euthanizing your own pets, too.

what do you mean by that? People shouldnt surrender their pets to animal shelters or that they should put their own suffering pet to death? I dont understand
 
If you were referring to the Mother Mary, i'd agree. But, amongst us mortals, there's a penis involved. So, i think we oughtta get a vote.


can you see where this breaks down? Like with an abusive husband who basically raped his wife get's to have a say?? or let's take it further, does a rapist get to have a say if his victim becomes pregnant?
 
what do you mean by that? People shouldnt surrender their pets to animal shelters or that they should put their own suffering pet to death? I dont understand
They shouldn't do either. Shelters are overwhelmed. And it's a nice feeling that your pet will have a nice, "painless" death, isn't it? And what's this suffering nonsense?
 
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