Keepable Gains on Needto's products

[ConanX]

For the OTC Steroids/Pro-steroids - What did you guys run, what were the gains like at the end of the cycle, and how much did you keep after PCT?

 

[SpyWizard]

the same as if I was running a Class III controlled substance...

Depends on what was run, but a normal PCT is required..

Depends on how well i ate and trained while running it..

 

[ConanX]

the same as if I was running a Class III controlled substance...

Depends on what was run, but a normal PCT is required..

Depends on how well i ate and trained while running it..

I don't know why I always hear rumors about OTC steroids working well and then the gains just drop when you get off. I can't wait to try it out for myself...

And yeah, of course I'm talking about training and dieting perfect, as you should to maximize all steroid gains.

 

[2evil]

I don't know why I always hear rumors about OTC steroids working well and then the gains just drop when you get off. I can't wait to try it out for myself...

And yeah, of course I'm talking about training and dieting perfect, as you should to maximize all steroid gains.

I have heard the same things in the past but I think it has to do with the user more than the compound. Think about it. An oral otc run for only a few weeks appeals to newbs that are scared of needles and probably don't have the right diet and training in place. The same people that start their cycle before they start their training, do no pct and then stop their training or are sporatic about it after.

This isn't to say that good bros with their shit together don't use them too. They do but you get what I'm saying.

 

[ConanX]

I have heard the same things in the past but I think it has to do with the user more than the compound. Think about it. An oral otc run for only a few weeks appeals to newbs that are scared of needles and probably don't have the right diet and training in place. The same people that start their cycle before they start their training, do no pct and then stop their training or are sporatic about it after.

This isn't to say that good bros with their shit together don't use them too. They do but you get what I'm saying.

That logic is very true. Clueless kids who pop the pills for 4 weeks and then in a few weeks they start to lose some strength and then they just slack off the training. Plus, I doubt everyone had their diets in check too.

 

[dabuffguy]

the same as if I was running a Class III controlled substance...

Depends on what was run, but a normal PCT is required..

Depends on how well i ate and trained while running it..

This.

An oral otc run for only a few weeks appeals to newbs that are scared of needles and probably don't have the right diet and training in place. The same people that start their cycle before they start their training, do no pct and then stop their training or are sporatic about it after.

And this too




You can hold gains just like any thing illegal. It's all i the user, diet and PCT. I highly doubt people that report using gains even did much of any PCT. Like 2evil said, noobs use them without having any clue, and then complain about the product when the problem is them.



If you get the gains, they are there. They don't magically disappear depending on what you used. New muscle is new muscle. It's all the exact same make up in your body. How you hold onto it is up to, again, the user diet and PCT.

 

[ConanX]

Word. Looking foward to using them.

1 of my friends who I am training will be clean-bulking using Beastdrol and TrenTFO for 4 weeks, followed by Forged PCT.
The other will be cutting while maintaining or having slight muscle gains while using Beastdrol and Katanadrol for 4 weeks, followed by Forged PCT. I will be advising him but I have a feeling he'll slack off after cycle. But the dude I'm training will be eating and working out right during and post cycle so I will let you all know how that goes. He is starting in a week or two.

If Needto's products deliver, as I have no reason to doubt that, then later this summer I will be running some Beastdrol (or...Needto's new Tbol inspired supp...or both) for a few weeks at a nice strong dose followed by a few weeks of Anavar Oxandrolone

 

[needtogetaas]

I have heard the same things in the past but I think it has to do with the user more than the compound. Think about it. An oral otc run for only a few weeks appeals to newbs that are scared of needles and probably don't have the right diet and training in place. The same people that start their cycle before they start their training, do no pct and then stop their training or are sporatic about it after.

This isn't to say that good bros with their shit together don't use them too. They do but you get what I'm saying.

So true. Its the numb skulls that give it the bad name when it comes to keeping the gains.