will be starting this cycle next week

[Nomak666]

my goal is too keep my muscles while dieting and maybe even put on 3-4 pounds of muscle. here's a cycle i put together and wanted to run it by the forum so i can get some input or opinions.

weeks 1-12 test prop @ 100mg EOD
weeks 1-12 anavar @ 80mg ED
Weeks 7-12 winny @ 50mg ED
Arimidex on hand.


pct will be the testosterone recovery stack and 50mg of clomid ed for 4 weeks. i had a crappy recovery with only clomid last time so im gonna give the testosterone recovery stack a try. ill also be taking some liver support pills. so let me know what you think.

 

[SouthernLord]

That's a long time to run var. You'll definitely need some liver/cycle support. Will you be using hcg?

 

[HAYEZ]

your cholesterol is going to be shot from that
1-12 prop 100eod
1-12 mast 100eod
4-12 var 80ed
better idea
or
1-12 prop 100eod
1-10 tren 50ed or 100 eod
4-12 va 80ed

 

[Nomak666]

That's a long time to run var. You'll definitely need some liver/cycle support. Will you be using hcg?

i read somewhere that people suggest to run var for abou 12 weeks. the winstrol, between week 6-7, my joints start to hurt real bad and thats wen i stop it. i was thinking about hcg during the cycle instead of during pct (its better to not let any problems arise then it is to fix the problem after it already happened).

 

[Nomak666]

your cholesterol is going to be shot from that
1-12 prop 100eod
1-12 mast 100eod
4-12 var 80ed
better idea
or
1-12 prop 100eod
1-10 tren 50ed or 100 eod
4-12 va 80ed

ive never used masteron, mainly cuz of price and as much as i love the effects of tren, i hate the cystic acne that i still have from it. its slowly going away cuz im taking accutane at 80mg a day. i ran tren enanthate for 375mg every week split into 2 shots. has anyone expierienced less sides with tren ace then tren enanthate. i usually hear people saying enantate has less sides but i would htink that it would have more sides considering it builds up in your body, while tren ace and test prop are gone withing 2 days.

 

[EZ_E]

Mast too expensive? 12 weeks of Var is gonna be pretty pricey, too...

Hayez helped me construct a similar cycle, you shouldn't go wrong with either one of his suggestions...

And nice job with some realistic goals, seems like a lot of guys say "I want to gain 30 pounds of ripped muscle in 4 weeks"

 

[HAYEZ]

ive never used masteron, mainly cuz of price and as much as i love the effects of tren, i hate the cystic acne that i still have from it. its slowly going away cuz im taking accutane at 80mg a day. i ran tren enanthate for 375mg every week split into 2 shots. has anyone expierienced less sides with tren ace then tren enanthate. i usually hear people saying enantate has less sides but i would htink that it would have more sides considering it builds up in your body, while tren ace and test prop are gone withing 2 days.

TREN ACE if shot ed should be side free

 

[Nomak666]

Mast too expensive? 12 weeks of Var is gonna be pretty pricey, too...

Hayez helped me construct a similar cycle, you shouldn't go wrong with either one of his suggestions...

And nice job with some realistic goals, seems like a lot of guys say "I want to gain 30 pounds of ripped muscle in 4 weeks"

yeah, i know its not possible to bulk and cut at the same time. but many people choose to do it anyway. i got a good deal on var for buying so much, so he hookd it up.


Hayes, i think i will give prop, var, and tren ace a try. what dose do you recomend for the tren ace. and would it be ok to use it eod with the prop? im thinking 100mg of prop and 75mg of tren ace eod plus 80mg of var. and should i run the tren 10 weeks and the prop for 12 weeks?

thanks bro

 

[HAYEZ]

yeah, i know its not possible to bulk and cut at the same time. but many people choose to do it anyway. i got a good deal on var for buying so much, so he hookd it up.


Hayes, i think i will give prop, var, and tren ace a try. what dose do you recomend for the tren ace. and would it be ok to use it eod with the prop? im thinking 100mg of prop and 75mg of tren ace eod plus 80mg of var. and should i run the tren 10 weeks and the prop for 12 weeks?

thanks bro

yes thats all fine...if you run into sides just shoot the tren ed

 

[v shape]

In my opinion 80mgs of var is excessive and expensive. I would go with 100mg test prop and 75mg tren eod and 60 mgs of anavar ED. I wouldnt do the tren for 12 weeks because its harsh on the hpta. You should consider this:

100 mg prop eod Week 1-12
75 mg tren Week 1-8
Anavar 60mgs Week 1-10