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unleashed.... worth it??

superhulk_26

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hey got a question, i just got some unleashed and was wondering, does it really really eliminate or reduce SHBG? just wondering causei looked at all the ingrediants and they are all herbal, just wonering if a product such as this is even worth taking for this reason? im on lots of test and if this really worked it would be great!! thanks for feed back
 
Come on guys, I know enough have taken it and had great results.

Yes, UNLEASHED is all herbal, it isn't a prohormone. That's why it isn't suppressive.

And it definitely lowers SHBG and increases Free T and I encourage everyone to get before and after blood tests. You'll see.
 
hey got a question, i just got some unleashed and was wondering, does it really really eliminate or reduce SHBG? just wondering causei looked at all the ingrediants and they are all herbal, just wonering if a product such as this is even worth taking for this reason? im on lots of test and if this really worked it would be great!! thanks for feed back

I have used both post cycle and unleashed and enjoyed them. I would use them again and again!
 
nelson, i was wondering, if you no, hoe unleashed works? imean like chemicaly? because i dont no how some herbs can make your shbg lower it just puzzzels me... please teach me about this product. because if it really does lower it, than that would mean i would atleast gain a few more pounds of muscle from the cycle im on and that would me great...
 
nelson, i was wondering, if you no, hoe unleashed works? imean like chemicaly? because i dont no how some herbs can make your shbg lower it just puzzzels me... please teach me about this product. because if it really does lower it, than that would mean i would atleast gain a few more pounds of muscle from the cycle im on and that would me great...

The same way a drug works bro. How does caffeine work? It's a bean. Nobody even knows how aspirin works.

Everything has a molecular structure and a chemical reaction in the body. Certain herbs trigger responses in the body. And yes, it can very well help you put on muscle, but realize, even Proviron is not the greatest mass builder. Lower SHBG will do more to make you harder, increases strength and libido and help raise free T.
 
The same way a drug works bro. How does caffeine work? It's a bean. Nobody even knows how aspirin works.

Everything has a molecular structure and a chemical reaction in the body. Certain herbs trigger responses in the body. And yes, it can very well help you put on muscle, but realize, even Proviron is not the greatest mass builder. Lower SHBG will do more to make you harder, increases strength and libido and help raise free T.

thanks for the info nelson, your a good dude i see you answer a lot of questions haha wish i ha k to give ya haha i dont no how all that stuff works. lol but do u no any of the ingrediants that have actually been proven to lower shbg? just wondering cause im very qurious to how this stuff works?? also can anyone who has taken it tell me how it did for them... thanks to all
 
The ingredients can help increase free test. Avena Sativa and Nettle Root bind to proteins and estrogens so that testosterone does not bind to those things, hence increasing the amount of testosterone that your body can use. If testosterone binds to proteins or estrogens the body cannot utilize it.

However, it seems to me that the doses are too low. The most effective doses of Avena Sativa are 2-3 gs per day based on my experiences and 300 mg of nettle root. However I am also much larger than the standard person so perhaps this plays into why I need more.

Is it worth it? I guess. It's not a miracle supplement. It can help a little bit though.
 
Does unleashed have any anit aromatase activity?

And can it be run long term without problems (ie, complementing a HRT regimen).
 
Does unleashed have any anit aromatase activity?

And can it be run long term without problems (ie, complementing a HRT regimen).

hi, i no it has no ant aromatize capabilitys hence why it is herbal, and non hormonal. but the main reason it is used is basically to yeild more muscle from the enhanced rate of testosterone usage in the body. we use something like 5% of the testosterone we have naturally or injected, and look at our gains from that... so thats why im interested in it because say it made us use say..... 10-25% of the test we injected, that could mean possibly double the gains in our cycles!! this is why i would like to no just how effective thi stuff really is....
 
The ingredients can help increase free test. Avena Sativa and Nettle Root bind to proteins and estrogens so that testosterone does not bind to those things, hence increasing the amount of testosterone that your body can use. If testosterone binds to proteins or estrogens the body cannot utilize it.

However, it seems to me that the doses are too low. The most effective doses of Avena Sativa are 2-3 gs per day based on my experiences and 300 mg of nettle root. However I am also much larger than the standard person so perhaps this plays into why I need more.

Is it worth it? I guess. It's not a miracle supplement. It can help a little bit though.

haha i think most people on elite are larger than the standard person haha
 
Does unleashed have any anit aromatase activity?

And can it be run long term without problems (ie, complementing a HRT regimen).

Having lower SHBG guards against aromatization, as is the case with Proviron but as fora direct anti e effect there's the companion compound "POST-CYCLE." Using both for PCT can be a tremendous help. (PP Sustain is also a natty anti e.)

True, if you're over 220, you're going to need a higher dosage but UNLEASHED has the highest concentration of avena COSIDES than any of the knock off products.

Avenacosides have been shown to lower SHBG but I and Protein Factory did further research with test subject and personally on myself and the increase in Free T was consistent down the line.
 
Having lower SHBG guards against aromatization, as is the case with Proviron but as fora direct anti e effect there's the companion compound "POST-CYCLE." Using both for PCT can be a tremendous help. (PP Sustain is also a natty anti e.)

True, if you're over 220, you're going to need a higher dosage but UNLEASHED has the highest concentration of avena COSIDES than any of the knock off products.

Avenacosides have been shown to lower SHBG but I and Protein Factory did further research with test subject and personally on myself and the increase in Free T was consistent down the line.

ok well since you tested it yourself, would u be so kind as to post your blood work up so i, and all who is sceptical about unleashed can see that your free t increased? i think this is the only true way to no if it works or not.
 
ok well since you tested it yourself, would u be so kind as to post your blood work up so i, and all who is sceptical about unleashed can see that your free t increased? i think this is the only true way to no if it works or not.

I've done so in the past. Honestly, I don't think I have my "before" numbers anymore since I've been using UNLEASHED for years now, but they were on the normal/low level for a man in his 40's. After using the ingredients in UNLEASHED they're on the high/normal level for a man in his 20's.

I'm actually going for a new blood test in a few days. I'll get the results but I don't have a scanner at home. Will try to post up the new results.

However, my results should be the least significant. It's the people who use gear on a regular basis who have no agenda. They're the people who I actually ENCOURAGE to get blood tests to so it's proof positive and not just empirical. And in that case the results have been extremely positive. That's the best endorsement I can think of.
 
I've done so in the past. Honestly, I don't think I have my "before" numbers anymore since I've been using UNLEASHED for years now, but they were on the normal/low level for a man in his 40's. After using the ingredients in UNLEASHED they're on the high/normal level for a man in his 20's.

I'm actually going for a new blood test in a few days. I'll get the results but I don't have a scanner at home. Will try to post up the new results.

However, my results should be the least significant. It's the people who use gear on a regular basis who have no agenda. They're the people who I actually ENCOURAGE to get blood tests to so it's proof positive and not just empirical. And in that case the results have been extremely positive. That's the best endorsement I can think of.

well thanks nelson im looking forward to seeing the bloood work up here hope u manage to get it up. another thing, you said a man in his 40's well im in my 20s i wonder if this could effect the results for a younger juice head like myself? just like how you hear about the dhea products dont work for younger men, but it does wonders in older men, increases the hell out of there test, but not a young man, kinda makes me wonder...
 
well thanks nelson im looking forward to seeing the bloood work up here hope u manage to get it up. another thing, you said a man in his 40's well im in my 20s i wonder if this could effect the results for a younger juice head like myself? just like how you hear about the dhea products dont work for younger men, but it does wonders in older men, increases the hell out of there test, but not a young man, kinda makes me wonder...

Actually DHEA isn't all that great in older men since it's likely to increase estrogen more than testosterone.

Lowering SHBG is an advantage to anyone, as evidenced by the use of Proviron, but it has a special place for guys over 30, since that's when free T levels start to fall.
 
Actually DHEA isn't all that great in older men since it's likely to increase estrogen more than testosterone.

Lowering SHBG is an advantage to anyone, as evidenced by the use of Proviron, but it has a special place for guys over 30, since that's when free T levels start to fall.

well i started my unleashed yesterday, maybe i will feel a defference in my gains and muscle density and strength.... like i said im on lots of gear right now so hopefully ill be able to tell a diff,,,
 
I have no bloodwork to back up my claims, but Unleashed works. It is one of the FEW supps I've taken that I can actually tell I'm taking. I use Primordial supps year round, and Unleashed is one of the FEW things I'm willing to shell out some bucks for to take in addition to my Primordial stuff.

I guess I should cycle it, but Nelson said to take it like vitamins, so I take that shit every day :D
 
well i started my unleashed yesterday, maybe i will feel a defference in my gains and muscle density and strength.... like i said im on lots of gear right now so hopefully ill be able to tell a diff,,,


Your not going to notice a difference if your on tons of gear bro. Id save it for after. Hcg and clomid is still a must imo
 
Your not going to notice a difference if your on tons of gear bro. Id save it for after. Hcg and clomid is still a must imo

oh shit well thats the onlr reason i got it cause by lowering shbg it should give you more gains in muscle and strength... thats the only reason, so i guess im jus waisting it cause if its claims are really true then anyone on cycle would be able to take this stuff and make more gains from adding it to there gear ya no?
 
oh shit well thats the onlr reason i got it cause by lowering shbg it should give you more gains in muscle and strength... thats the only reason, so i guess im jus waisting it cause if its claims are really true then anyone on cycle would be able to take this stuff and make more gains from adding it to there gear ya no?

i could be mistaking but it sounds to me like you are looking for a reason to trash the sup. nelson is a respectable guy with a respectable product. unleashed and other sups are spoken highly of over and over again by many different users. if you have already bought the product then take it and see what it does.
 
oh shit well thats the onlr reason i got it cause by lowering shbg it should give you more gains in muscle and strength... thats the only reason, so i guess im jus waisting it cause if its claims are really true then anyone on cycle would be able to take this stuff and make more gains from adding it to there gear ya no?

It will definitely make a differnce while on since it'll raise Free T. How much might be difficult to gauge just like it would difficult to know how much of a difference 50 mgs of proviron will make. But it does.

I agree with needto. Clomid is not a must. If you use HCG or HMG, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, SUSTAIN and some dex or aromasan, you shouldn;t need clomid. And you'll avoid the nasty sides.
 
unleashed from protein factory. Whats in it,what it can do, why to take it on,off,or,pct


stinging nettle root. Lets first take a look at just one part of the nettle root. That part you are talking about. lowering the shbg. Now it has other uses and we will get into that but this is what you are asking to be addressed first.
3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran this is part of the nettle root. Feel free to look it up.but wika makes mention of it here Stinging nettle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia along with a lot of its other components and uses.

3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran

(Planta Med. 1997 Dec;63(6):529-32.
Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).
Schöttner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G.
Lehrstuhl Organische Chemie I, Universität Bayreuth, Germany.

Polar extracts of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica L.) roots contain the ligans (+)-neoolivil, (-)-secoisolariciresinol, dehydrodiconiferyl alcohol, isolariciresinol, pinoresinol, and 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran. These compounds were either isolated from Urtica roots, or obtained semisynthetically. Their affinity to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) was tested in an in vitro assay. In addition, the main intestinal transformation products of plant lignans in humans, enterodiol and enterolactone, together with enterofuran were checked for their activity. All lignans except (-)-pinoresinol developed a binding affinity to SHBG in the in vitro assay. The affinity of (-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran was outstandingly high. These findings are discussed with respect to potential beneficial effects of plant lignans on benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH).

PMID: 9434605 )
Le Magazine February 1999: Bph The Other Side Of The Coin
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Read this whole dame thing if you like. I did and because I enjoy this shit but you would be best to just skip right down to this part.

(Accordingly, these researchers studied an agent thought to inhibit the binding of SHBG to the prostate cell membrane, an extract of the root of the stinging nettle plant, Urtica dioica. In a paper published in 1995 in Planta Medica, they demonstrated that nettle root does indeed inhibit the binding of SHBG to the cell membrane.

In a subsequent series of articles, German researchers have identified a constituent of nettle root known as (-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran whose very high binding affinity to SHBG they describe as "remarkable." These researchers suggest that the beneficial effects of plant lignans (such as found in flaxseed oil) on hormone-dependent cancers may be linked to their binding affinity to SHBG. The most potent known lignans in this respect are constituents of nettle root.

Studies show that the ethanolic extract of nettle root is not in inhibiting SHBG binding, while the aqueous and methanolic extracts are.

In addition to inhibiting SHBG binding, at least six constituents of nettle root inhibit aromatase, reducing conversion of androgens to estrogens. Combining nettle root with pygeum results in a stronger, synergistic inhibition. The studies on aromatase inhibition by nettle root used methanolic extracts.) its in the middle of the article and yes the article has copies of the studies don as well.

OK but that is just one part of the nettle root and just a little peace of the product. Lets keep going. you can reed more about the nettle root all across the net. you will see it was a cover story on life extentions mag in 2004 and has been talked about all over for years now
Le Magazine, February 2004 - Cover Story: Testosterone Attacked By The Media
more reads.
Database entry for Nettle - Nettles - Urtica dioica - Nettles - Urtica dioica
Stinging Nettle by Ray Sahelian, M.D., benefit for allergy, prostate
Stinging Nettle Root - Herbs & Supplements - Drug Library - DrugDigest
apotheblogary: Nettle root tincture
and 100,000 other sites studies blah blah blah...

other studies and publications to check out

See:
Extraction and purification of a substance with luteinizing hormone releasing activity from the leaves of Avena sativa. Fukushima M, Watanabe S, Kushima K.

Schottner M, Gansser D, Spiteller G. Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG). Planta Med 1997 Dec;63(6):529-32.

Hryb DJ, Khan MS, Romas NA, Rosner W. The effect of extracts of the roots of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica) on the interaction of SHBG with its receptor on human prostatic membranes. Planta Med 1995 Feb;61(1):31-2.


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Avena Sativa... As far as I can see the only study/reputable source I could find about Avena Sativa and its effects on ether raising free test lowring shbg was that the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco suggests that Avena Sativa does release Testosterone from its binding proteins. of course again there is 50000 different sites and shit claiming it and putting out some info on it but not much.... I believe this is a subject that will get researched more in the future

Non the less lets take a look at what sites across the net have to say.

Avena Sativa=Avenacosides A&B a fuck do a google search yourself I am slowing down now lololol... Seems to be some good shit...



Muira-Puama . There has been several studies don on its effects on Prolactin and it has been shown to lower Prolactin. This is prob the reason why its been slung all over the industry as a (sex booster)... It also has a effect on blood flow. Many people who take it report a pump like feeling... I myself have used it in high doses just to test it out for products I plan to make later down the road... Its hit mor miss with a lot more hit on this ingredient. I would say a good 80% of the people who use just this in pill form alon have reported a increasing sex drive. So much so that almost every otc libdo increasing product has this in it these days.. Potency and purity makes all the difference in the world IMO so some product clam to have lots when they really have shit. I would only get this from places you trust.. As I stated I have looked into it a lot and its not cheap. So companies will most deff try to lie about how much there product has of this ingredient.

You can research Muira-Puama on google and find all kinds of good shit.


A fuck I am spending way to much time doing this one... There is like 5 more ingredents in the product and I am sure I can find a lot of good reasons why they work,why they are in the product and all that shit....bottom line though..

1. protein factor has been a great sponsor. Many people love and trust them not only on ef but across the net.
2. Nelson himself has been a great bro to have on ef. He is smart,fun, and most of all he helps out big time.
3. I have used unleashed myself and I liked the (increase in sex drive it gave me) this is the only reason I used the product. I only used it an hour before pounding my wifes love cave, and for that reason it worked great.

4. thousands of others have used the product and other products from protein factory and every one has been pretty damn happy with there results.


5... I may come back to this post and thread and spend a more time on it but for now. Unleashed is good shit.
 
i could be mistaking but it sounds to me like you are looking for a reason to trash the sup. nelson is a respectable guy with a respectable product. unleashed and other sups are spoken highly of over and over again by many different users. if you have already bought the product then take it and see what it does.

joe d, i never said or implied that i wanted to trash the product so f*c* off. the reason i made this dam thread was because yes i bought it because i thought the product was interesting, and i wanted some real life info on it from real users. so yes you are mistaken... also i never doubted nelson, i no he is a good guy i even told him that. i just want to no about the product in depth so i made this thread. i didnt make it for some one to critisize me. this is what this site is for... to ask people about something you dont no about, or just want to discuss stuff. i would never "trash" anything i buy with my own money anyway thats just stupid. well i blowed some steam... thankyou for your critsizm jo d
 
nelson, and needto you guys are awesome, thank you guys for all your information on this!! ive been on unleashed now for i think 4 days but im really loking forward to seeing the benifits of this. nelson i also look forward to seeing your blood work if you have it, or if you can get it up, if not its really ok, i trust you guys both and you guys are just some good ass bros!! i think you guys pretty much cleared all my questions and curiositys. this is why i love this site! been a member since 2006, just such good info on this site, not like anywhere else. thnks guys
 
joe d, i never said or implied that i wanted to trash the product so f*c* off. the reason i made this dam thread was because yes i bought it because i thought the product was interesting, and i wanted some real life info on it from real users. so yes you are mistaken... also i never doubted nelson, i no he is a good guy i even told him that. i just want to no about the product in depth so i made this thread. i didnt make it for some one to critisize me. this is what this site is for... to ask people about something you dont no about, or just want to discuss stuff. i would never "trash" anything i buy with my own money anyway thats just stupid. well i blowed some steam... thankyou for your critsizm jo d


lol
 
joe d, i never said or implied that i wanted to trash the product so f*c* off. the reason i made this dam thread was because yes i bought it because i thought the product was interesting, and i wanted some real life info on it from real users. so yes you are mistaken... also i never doubted nelson, i no he is a good guy i even told him that. i just want to no about the product in depth so i made this thread. i didnt make it for some one to critisize me. this is what this site is for... to ask people about something you dont no about, or just want to discuss stuff. i would never "trash" anything i buy with my own money anyway thats just stupid. well i blowed some steam... thankyou for your critsizm jo d

We don't speak to people like this on our aas forums. Thank you.
 
yes i no, but he insulted me first. oh well its fine

I can't believe I am giving spelling advice. What is even more unbelievable is the fact that your use of the word (no) when it should be (Know) is killing me here.
I am one of the worst spellers on this board so who better to point that out for you then me :biggrin:


As for joe's comment he may have implied something but he was sure to say (I could be wrong) and also present his comments in a respectful way. So you have have taken offense to the msg he was sending but at least the delivery of the msg was respectful.

Telling people to "go fuck your self" and things of this nature is not how we role of aas. We can do with out these statements.
 
I can't believe I am giving spelling advice. What is even more unbelievable is the fact that your use of the word (no) when it should be (Know) is killing me here.
I am one of the worst spellers on this board so who better to point that out for you then me :biggrin:


As for joe's comment he may have implied something but he was sure to say (I could be wrong) and also present his comments in a respectful way. So you have have taken offense to the msg he was sending but at least the delivery of the msg was respectful.

Telling people to "go fuck your self" and things of this nature is not how we role of aas. We can do with out these statements.

haha ya i just type fast sorry haha ill work on it. but ya i just kinda got pissed off sorry joe! lol well
thanks for all the advice on the unleased guys
 
needto, or anyone else.... well a question have is, you no how unleashed is supposed to decrease shbg? well honestly in your opinion, do you think winstrol or proviron will work better for that? because i have seen studys saying thoughs to are one of the best thing medicaly for lowering shbg. i no i am doing a bulker, and winny is a cutter, but do you think by adding a little bit of winny everyday would lower it enough to be able to make a significant amount more of gains, becaue more test will be "FREE" test, therefore making more gains??? im just looking for more effecient ways to take gear, instead of taking butt loads of gear like im doing now....
 
needto, or anyone else.... well a question have is, you no how unleashed is supposed to decrease shbg? well honestly in your opinion, do you think winstrol or proviron will work better for that? because i have seen studys saying thoughs to are one of the best thing medicaly for lowering shbg. i no i am doing a bulker, and winny is a cutter, but do you think by adding a little bit of winny everyday would lower it enough to be able to make a significant amount more of gains, becaue more test will be "FREE" test, therefore making more gains??? im just looking for more effecient ways to take gear, instead of taking butt loads of gear like im doing now....

Bro I make no money of unleashed and frankly I don't make much money of telling lies and spreading bullshit. I am at my best telling what I believe to be the truth and helping my brothers out the best I can.

Will prov,winny,mast,or other dht derived steroids (yes steroids) lower shbg better on cycle then unleashed? Well fucking of course they will bro!!! There is so much more to it then just that though. O god there is more to it then that.
legal,not legal.
on cycle off cycle.
pct.
pron to dht hair loss sides or not.
price. ( yup unleashed is twice as cheap)
liver health and bp as well as other problems. We can get into this and debate more will keep the thread going.

It all depends on how,when,why,how much, and much much more bro. Lets say you want to come off cycle and you want to make the most of every once of test in your body. Well prove or any dht derived AAS is a steroid any way you look at it and should never be used in pct. So of course unleashed is the the better choice.

We need to really think about things and not just say o well this drug works better for this one reason so I will go with this. Lets all stop being simple minded and get down to the meat and potatoes of things.

For overall helping a cycle,better over all health,assisting a cycle over all,and lowering shbg unleashed is better.

If your only reason for adding something to a cycling is just for lowering shbg and that is it then yes by all means go with prov.

Dht derivatives have a lot of other uses during a cycle to. They work great in a test/nandro mix because they help balance out prog. Lots to think about with every cycle,every pct, and so on though.

If you want to be simple minded and ask a simple question like what lowers shbg more then yes proviron does. :D
 
Bro I make no money of unleashed and frankly I don't make much money of telling lies and spreading bullshit. I am at my best telling what I believe to be the truth and helping my brothers out the best I can.

Will prov,winny,mast,or other dht derived steroids (yes steroids) lower shbg better on cycle then unleashed? Well fucking of course they will bro!!! There is so much more to it then just that though. O god there is more to it then that.
legal,not legal.
on cycle off cycle.
pct.
pron to dht hair loss sides or not.
price. ( yup unleashed is twice as cheap)
liver health and bp as well as other problems. We can get into this and debate more will keep the thread going.

It all depends on how,when,why,how much, and much much more bro. Lets say you want to come off cycle and you want to make the most of every once of test in your body. Well prove or any dht derived AAS is a steroid any way you look at it and should never be used in pct. So of course unleashed is the the better choice.

We need to really think about things and not just say o well this drug works better for this one reason so I will go with this. Lets all stop being simple minded and get down to the meat and potatoes of things.

For overall helping a cycle,better over all health,assisting a cycle over all,and lowering shbg unleashed is better.

If your only reason for adding something to a cycling is just for lowering shbg and that is it then yes by all means go with prov.

Dht derivatives have a lot of other uses during a cycle to. They work great in a test/nandro mix because they help balance out prog. Lots to think about with every cycle,every pct, and so on though.

If you want to be simple minded and ask a simple question like what lowers shbg more then yes proviron does. :D

well i hope i didnt offend you by asking that question. i just wanted to no what would lower it better. and yes im still taking the unleashed throughout my whole cycle, also add winny at only 15mg/day to also better bind to shbg. i have another bottle of unleasehed and of postcycle, and will add that to my pct after cycle. so thank uu for all your info.
 
wow i was researching and found this great article!! i knew i was on to somthing!! yes so it will pay off to add winny to my bulker at 15-20mg/day!!! everyone read this, its very interesting!!
 
did you guys think that was interesting at all? opens my eyes a bit about shbg... it can make dramatic diffrence in the effectivness in cycles more gains more strength out of your bulker try it guys! i am, im doing 15-20mg winny everyday just for the shbg thing its just plane more efficient guys its a good thing to no!!
 
I agree, but I think herbal and pro-hormonal alternatives have there place as well....Is it worth the price ? who knows but it certainly would not hurt to try it.

I'll take the pharmaceutical drug over the herbal supplement, all day.
 
well i hope i didnt offend you by asking that question. i just wanted to no what would lower it better. and yes im still taking the unleashed throughout my whole cycle, also add winny at only 15mg/day to also better bind to shbg. i have another bottle of unleasehed and of postcycle, and will add that to my pct after cycle. so thank uu for all your info.

I like it when some one says (I hope I did not offend you). Its like they are trying to say you got offended lmao.

Man look at my post and please tell me where the hell would you even think I was offended?
 
I like it when some one says (I hope I did not offend you). Its like they are trying to say you got offended lmao.

Man look at my post and please tell me where the hell would you even think I was offended?


ok well sorry it just sounded like you got mad. just trying to apoligize cause i thought i might of offended you. just being polite man
 
I didn't hear anything, I read something, but you won't piss needto off. HAHAHA at that.

I like my Unleashed and PostCycle..... I always have it now, and always will. I am a oldar fella that needs that little bit of free t, ya know. And I know it works..... oh I know..... I do, I know.

Nelson, it's good product, as you know also... we know you know it too.

(word for the poster that told someone to Fuck off) You really shouldn't say that to anyone. It's not a proper way of dealing with things.
 
The written word on the internet can be a tricky thing. Everything I post myself is meant to be recieved in a very monotone voice and is more than likely a question to stimulate discussion, not to offend or call someone wrong. js just saying....................
 
well ill just take the unleashed and the winny everyday at like 20mg, ao that should drop shbg by a good 75 percent. well thanks for all your guys info and thoughts
 
The written word on the internet can be a tricky thing. Everything I post myself is meant to be recieved in a very monotone voice and is more than likely a question to stimulate discussion, not to offend or call someone wrong. js just saying....................

me to :biggrin:
 
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