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I dont really appreciate my post being moved to a board that receives absolutely no traffic and no one even knows about. I put it on the ananbolic board because it is about aas and so that people would see it!
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I hate to have to be the nay sayer.. But synthesizing AAS is a whale of a task...
The level of difficulty is daunting- we're talking about impressive, multistep procedures with protective groups, and yada yada yada..
Of course it could be done.. But why?
1-You must obtain a load of glass, equipment, and potentially expensive and hard to find reagents (don't think Sigma is going to sell these to you).
2-You must have the chemical sophistication to be able to go to sci-finder, find the recipe, understand what the authors are talking about, and perform the synthesis..
3- AAS synthesis procede with a load of side reactions-- you will need a clever way to purify your product.
4-Also, you will need access to HNMR to identify and assess purity..
I'm not saying it can't be done in your kitchen... Just that you would be a hell of a lot better off buying it pre-made or even solublizing it from powder.
I've considered switching esters myself.. Now, a transesterification on an (already) parent compound doesn't seem that bad... Still, this would be more of a 'just for fun' type of thing-- ie, it's better to buy the longer ester or deal with the shorter one.
Andy
The level of difficulty is daunting- we're talking about impressive, multistep procedures with protective groups, and yada yada yada..
Of course it could be done.. But why?
1-You must obtain a load of glass, equipment, and potentially expensive and hard to find reagents (don't think Sigma is going to sell these to you).
2-You must have the chemical sophistication to be able to go to sci-finder, find the recipe, understand what the authors are talking about, and perform the synthesis..
3- AAS synthesis procede with a load of side reactions-- you will need a clever way to purify your product.
4-Also, you will need access to HNMR to identify and assess purity..
I'm not saying it can't be done in your kitchen... Just that you would be a hell of a lot better off buying it pre-made or even solublizing it from powder.
I've considered switching esters myself.. Now, a transesterification on an (already) parent compound doesn't seem that bad... Still, this would be more of a 'just for fun' type of thing-- ie, it's better to buy the longer ester or deal with the shorter one.
Andy
Let me add something....
Cocaine can and has been chemically synthesized.. But have you ever heard of a 'cocain lab' getting busted? No, the reason is because synthesis of cocain is more diffucult and less economical than importing it from Columbia.
The (underground) chemical synthesis of AAS shares the same dilema.. That's why even far East BUYS the stuff from a pharmaceutical company, then simply bottles it. Apparently he too feels that synthesis is not worth it.
Cocaine can and has been chemically synthesized.. But have you ever heard of a 'cocain lab' getting busted? No, the reason is because synthesis of cocain is more diffucult and less economical than importing it from Columbia.
The (underground) chemical synthesis of AAS shares the same dilema.. That's why even far East BUYS the stuff from a pharmaceutical company, then simply bottles it. Apparently he too feels that synthesis is not worth it.
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BrothaBill
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Andy13 said:
I dont think so, with the raw ingredients its as simple as baking a cake. Its easier to smuggle a kilo of coke than a ton of coca leaves. Just like baking you need the equipment, but once you have it and a powder source youre going to save alot of money, ANd its fun.
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Andy13 said:
Im not talking about starting a lab and synthesizing it. Im talking about getting the powder cheap and putting it together, its simple. and cuts your costs to a 1/5 of buying it. Check out massmonsterz.com and the how-tos
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BrothaBill
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Andy13 said:
LOL, then we agree.
totallyjacked
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I am by no means a chemist. However, with finaplix is that not just the parent steroid trenbolone acetate in a powder form. You then dissolve with benzyl alcohol or maybe benzyl benzoate. Then just add the oil and filter. So, my question is why can't you just take the methenolone enanthate and do the same process. Perhaps I am over simplifying this but tell me what you bros think.
